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LCC

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We will eventually get through this virus with a still unknown illness and death toll, and a badly damaged US economy that will likely take years to fully recover.
Especially if this virus does what many scientists believe it will do, which is re-emerge again in the fall, and do seasonal laps around the world for a couple of years just as the Spanish Flu did.
And many scientists are convinced in this overcrowded world of almost eight billion people, with 4.5 billion airline seats sold last year that included 10 million country to country seats, the past barriers of time and geography are long gone. What sneezes in Wuhan on Monday sneezes in New York on Friday. And Covid 19 just another railcar on the train of Covid virus's that will emerge and travel.
We have zero control on what this virus or any virus does. What we can control, however, is how we respond to it. We were obviously caught flat footed on this one, and it's time to move past the blame game and start thinking about how we will respond in the future. Because we can't keep doing this to ourselves every time we get hit again by the inevitable next one

And to do that, we need to get serious about our preperations so we don't recycle this current clusterf#$k. Seems the most obvious are:

-PPE. Move all production to the US, and create target goals of 1.5 billion masks always in the stockpile, along with sufficient quantities of gowns, shields, gloves, etc. N95 masks made overseas are more often than not found to be fraudulent with low filtration, essentially killing the doctors and nurses using them.
-work with the big companies to create next generation US made respirators that are more efficient and cost effective, and maintain a national stockpile to draw from per need.
-launch a massive high speed internet expansion so that the 20% of students who live in areas without it can be home schooled by their teachers during peak pandemic times. This will also expedite the shift to video doctor appointments for routine matters not requiring a hands on exam. With the average doctor managing 3000-5000 patients, it is way overdue, and is highly functional.
-teachers need to revisit the current centuries old teaching models, kids have to function in a whole new world where rote memorization of long past events is much less important than building critical thinking skills that help them compete for jobs, and the online offering of skill certifications is essential.
-build partnerships with US drug manufacturers to create rapid response capabiity to viral emergence. This will require baseline funding just as we do for the fire departments - we pay for what they can do, not what they are neccessarily doing.
-rebuild relationships with the WHO. If we walk away, China wins. Use our influence to leverage a fair play environment that enables virologists around the world to share real time virus data.
-enact all states mail in voting. We've had it in Oregon for many years. Zero fraud, so much easier to do sitting at the kitchen table in 15 mins instead of committing half a day. Let the will of the people be heard, one and all.
-work with the labs to create fast result home testing. We need to go back to work, and do it safely. Self test, alert, isolate. Keep the work force healthy and working.

Above all, stop reliance on overseas production of anything relating to our ability to meet the needs of a pandemic. Mandate all materials and drugs are US made, so we can control quality, cost, and invest our $ in US jobs.

If only...
 
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The problem with mail vote is that nobody really knows who's voting. The volks running Oregon are not to be trusted, esp. with illegals getting driver's licenses and being signed up to vote at the same time. Ripe for fraud, when ever voter ID is brought up look who howls about it.
 
LCC, you make some good and valid points there. I'm not in total agreement, but close enough.
However, you know just as well as I do that once this "crisis" passes the politicians will forget it and move on with their own personal agendas.
 
Yes, likely a pipe dream in the new normal of bitterly polarized government, with everyone on both sides of the aisle beholden to their corporate owners..

As to the myth of of 'llegal immigrants voting in Oregon', this straight from OR DMV:

"The Oregon DMV requires all applicants to show proof of citizenship or legal residency to determine eligibility for a license.
Only those who can show proof of US citizenship will have their names and personal information passed along to the Oregon Secretary of State for potential voter registration."
 
Ultimately, you have your immune system, for better or worse, that is your protection. The rest is diversion from that simple truth.
 
LCC, you make some good and valid points there. I'm not in total agreement, but close enough.
However, you know just as well as I do that once this "crisis" passes the politicians will forget it and move on with their own personal agendas.

As they all are doing now.
 
Ultimately, you have your immune system, for better or worse, that is your protection. The rest is diversion from that simple truth.

We do all have our immune system but sometimes it needs a little help from antibiotics, anti-virals and the like, they have helped me on occasion. Not sure that is a diversion from the truth. To my mind not a bad thing.
 
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Has the CDC earned its pay? They've been paid billions of US taxpayer dollars over the years to do one thing and that's to protect us from things like this Covid virus but most of what I'm hearing is stay home, where a mask, and stay 6 feet away from people when you do go out. Have they prevented other viruses from infecting us that are not appreciated? I really don't know. Within the next 5 years if another very contagious and deadly virus comes around I think most everyone will react faster and take it more seriously but as time goes on the memories fade...
 
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LCC,

I'm sure you realize that the proposals/solutions
would/will require a strong central planning system,
meaning the federal government, along with
all the state governments getting in line.

The "machinery" already exists but is quite rusty.

However, it's absolutely what is needed.

But, well, you know..... :(
 
The problem with mail vote is that nobody really knows who's voting. The volks running Oregon are not to be trusted, esp. with illegals getting driver's licenses and being signed up to vote at the same time. Ripe for fraud, when ever voter ID is brought up look who howls about it.
A banana republics dream, mail in voting ......and then add in.....”central planning”

. It’s ridiculous that someone in DC tells someone in small town Alabama what’s good for them.

Communists love central planning.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...-economy.asp&usg=AOvVaw3tiKBdJBhnWL2eArps3KnA


Oh, someone is already working on the drug thing ;)

White House preparing executive order requiring certain essential drugs be made in U.S., sources say

And supplies....

Coronavirus updates: White House aims to ramp up production of critical supplies


Why wasn’t anyone thinking about this before 2017 ? :confused:


Illegals get drivers licenses in Oregon But not likely to be abused, right?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...igrants.aspx&usg=AOvVaw3P73H2SPsTfBKyupsIm9tQ
 
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The second anybody mentions keeping production of anything in the US I crack a smile. If doing so is going to hit Wall Street's idea of the bottom line, then it ain't happening.
 
Has the CDC earned its pay? They've been paid billions of US taxpayer dollars over the years to do one thing and that's to protect us from things like this Covid virus but most of what I'm hearing is stay home, where a mask, and stay 6 feet away from people when you do go out. Have they prevented other viruses from infecting us that are not appreciated? I really don't know. Within the next 5 years if another very contagious and deadly virus comes around I think most everyone will react faster and take it more seriously but as time goes on the memories fade...

The CDC is dealing with two major issues. It's current head is a mumbling MaGoo of a political appointee, and it is being politically constrained from doing it's job. Politics before science.
The White House now wants the CDC to restructure how it counts Covid deaths so they are reported as lower, i.e., if any of the deaths had an underlying health condition, it be listed as the cause of death. Pure gamesmanship politics with no regard for anything but minimizing the true virus impact during an election year.

Reported yesterday, over 40 folks who went to a 'open our county now' protest two weeks ago, disdaining masks, now have Covid. Those pictures of the folks elbow to elbow in the Michigan bars? Guinea pigs. Wearing a mask is not just for 'weak liberals'. It's for anyone trying to protect famiy health.

As long as we lack a strong national effort, we will remain vunerable. You don't fight a war by telling each state 'go do your own thing.'
If we had done that decades ago, we'd all be speaking either German or Japanese.
 
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