lever action work expensive help..

[Alpo]

ok I guess I'm at loss here what is the tang is that where the stock mounts to the rifle if not can you pls show me what you mean.

Yes it is. It is the two pieces of metal coming out the back of the receiver. They screw into the top and bottom of the wrist of the stock.

Because the wrist on your gun is straight, the tang is also. With a pistol grip, both the top and bottom of the wrist will be curved, so the tang will have to have corresponding curves.

 

[kwselke]

This is something I've been considering for my stainless Rossi .44 mag carbine.

I purposely chose a 20" stainless without the saddle-ring as a truck/atv gun.

The stainless Rossi serves well however it is a little 'bright' for the woods...and may soon be olive drab or desert tan from end to end...

As far as sights for the Rossi go...I've been getting along fine with the primitive factory open sights..However Rossi drills and taps for a scout style scope mount(right under the rear sight)...also available is an aftermarket bolt mounted peep sight replacing the goofy bolt safety...

I know a guy that spray painted a Rem. 700 BDL all black. It was pitiful looking and a waste of paint and a fine rifle. If you wish to cover the shiny stainless try camo duct tape. It is reversable if you do not like the outcome. If you want to spend bucks there are camo dip processes or you can have it bead blasted to reduce glare.

 

[bishopm14]

Since it has been cleared up what you want with the stock, it can be done. Not exactly convenient though. Marlin never made a .357 1894 with a curved pistol grip stock. If they had, I would have been all over it.
The straight stock and associated parts can be swapped out for curved parts though. The buttstock themselves are all basically interchangeable from model to model. You will need a different trigger plate, which is the part that the lever itself bolts to, holds the trigger group parts, and the stock is attached to it on the lower side also. While the curved trigger plate has enough metal to be modified to fit a straight stock, I don't think the opposite is true.
Like I said, it's not an easy convenient mod.

 

[Doug M.]

One of the guys at Unity Tactical (also one of the top places to go for a RDS on your pistol) built up a .44 mag rifle with a good light, shortened, etc. He even fit a can to it. I am not sure of his name, only find his screen name over at LF, but I bet he can give you some good guidance on the things you can do with this rifle.

 

[NYlakesider]

I live in the people's republic of NY and have a few choices still available as a good defense gun. (I chose a hicap shotgun)

If I wanted a rifle and by some chance I could not use one of my AR clones (with restricted NY Mags of course) I would think highly of using my lever Rossi .45 Colt. It's a big bore and holds sufficient rounds to party with if necessary. I doubt I would change/add anything as like your choice ITS STILL A PISTOL ROUND and therefore limited in range.(KISS) The stock sights that came with the gun should do what is required from this type of weapon. I also have a revolver that will fire this ammo.

 

[Alpo]

... Marlin never made a .357 1894 with a curved pistol grip stock. If they had, I would have been all over it....

Is the gun this thread is about a MARLIN 1894? If so, that's a good choice, as it was designed for the short "pistol-size" cartridge.

I thought it was a WINCHESTER 1894, which was designed for a longer "rifle-size" cartridge, and then "redesigned" for the shorter round. It, occasionally, has troubles with feeding - especially if working it quickly. Would not have been my first choice, but since he already has the gun, we try to help the best we can.

 

[REVL33]

Is the gun this thread is about a MARLIN 1894? If so, that's a good choice, as it was designed for the short "pistol-size" cartridge.

I thought it was a WINCHESTER 1894, which was designed for a longer "rifle-size" cartridge, and then "redesigned" for the shorter round. It, occasionally, has troubles with feeding - especially if working it quickly. Would not have been my first choice, but since he already has the gun, we try to help the best we can.

yes it is a marlin 1894 I'm on my way out right now to pick it up I will address some of the comments later if I have time thank you every body and merry christmas

 

[bgrafsr]

Shouda bought the Mossberg.......

First off I would never be seen with a monstronsity like that, let alone buy one, and secondly if that is not the ugliest gun, it comes mighty darn close.

 

[Rastoff]

ok I guess I'm at loss here what is the tang is that where the stock mounts to the rifle if not can you pls show me what you mean.

Alpo has already answered this, but I figured I'd drop a picture in here to clarify.

This is my Henry Big Boy in .45Colt. I've added an arrow pointing to the tang. You can just see it above the lever and at the bottom of the grip.

As you can see, this part of the metal would have to be curved to fit the curves of a pistol grip.

 

[Alpo]

First off I would never be seen with a monstronsity like that, let alone buy one, and secondly if that is not the ugliest gun, it comes mighty darn close.

You ain't seen one of them "California-legal" ARs, then, have you?

See, the pistol grip is NOT separate from the buttstock, so it is not an evil assault weapon.

 

[Rastoff]

This is a CA legal AR:

 

[Gunhacker]

Go take a look over at the Marlinowners.com forum... lots of interesting mods going on there. Probably one of "must do" changes to improve a Marlin is to do away with the infamous Marlin "trigger flop".

The replacement parts aren't a difficult DIY, I used the Wild West - Trigger Happy kit from Brownells

One of the "spray and bake" finishes (Gun-Kote, Dura-Bak, baking lacquer, etc.) from Brownells is also an inexpensive DIY option to change your guns look.

Although not "traditional" in appearance, wrapping the lower lever loop in paracord helps to add a cushion for rapid fire. A popular mod with Cowboy Action shooters, but with leather lacing instead.

This is also covered on the Marlin forum.

Enjoy your rifle, I have an ancient .30-30 336RC and a 1894S in .45 Colt... love the heck out of both of them.

 

[buck460XVR]

First off I would never be seen with a monstronsity like that, let alone buy one, and secondly if that is not the ugliest gun, it comes mighty darn close.

First off....this thread is not about you or what you would or would not be seen with. The OP was lookin' for ideas/suggestions as to personalize HIS firearm........not yours. I too am a big fan of levers and have several in my arsenal. I'm closin' in on six decades and several are older than me. All are wood stocked and only one is stainless. I would never consider scoping one as IMHO, they are truly an open sight gun. But I could care less what others like or do and see no reason to belittle them and their choices because their likes and priorities are different than mine. Truth be said, cosmetics influence my choice of firearms very little if any. My concern is function and accuracy. Same is true with bird dogs, I care little about their color or how big and where their spots are located as long as they find birds and are a pleasure to hunt with. Could be that Mossberg is the most accurate, most reliable and most pleasant lever action one could ever shoot. I dunno. What I do know is, folks that pick their firearms by looks alone probably don't shoot them much.

 

[finesse_r]

ok I'm picking up my 1894 in 357. tomorrow and if any of you have followed my thread on the search for a lever action you will know I wanted this rifle as defensive carbine as my #1 reason for buying as I live in ca and will not own any nuetered self loading any thing until laws change or I move I have two 357. revolvers so I'm sticking to keeping the only caliber for now.

my question for all of you in lever land I would like to make this rifle more on the tactical side I know bad word around these parts but find doing so is very expensive if I send it off to wildwest guns or grizzly to have the work done I don't have that kind of money around heck it was hard enough to fund the purchase alone.

here is what I would like I don't like blue guns at all so I would like to have it refinished in a black duracoat or something very durable and corrossion resistant #2 synthetic stocks in black with pistol grip style #3 some good sights like skinner or ghost ring #4 and last but not least just reliable real simple works everytime rifle is there any work I could do myself to keep cost down or parts I could buy and install myself ive searched the webs and it's tough to find stocks and parts that don't cost a small fortune.

any and all help is appreciated ideas links services stuff you've done yourself that might help.

I am pretty certain there are laws against doing that to a Marlin .357 and if there are not there should be.

 

[REVL33]

First off....this thread is not about you or what you would or would not be seen with. The OP was lookin' for ideas/suggestions as to personalize HIS firearm........not yours. I too am a big fan of levers and have several in my arsenal. I'm closin' in on six decades and several are older than me. All are wood stocked and only one is stainless. I would never consider scoping one as IMHO, they are truly an open sight gun. But I could care less what others like or do and see no reason to belittle them and their choices because their likes and priorities are different than mine. Truth be said, cosmetics influence my choice of firearms very little if any. My concern is function and accuracy. Same is true with bird dogs, I care little about their color or how big and where their spots are located as long as they find birds and are a pleasure to hunt with. Could be that Mossberg is the most accurate, most reliable and most pleasant lever action one could ever shoot. I dunno. What I do know is, folks that pick their firearms by looks alone probably don't shoot them much.

thank you I could not have said it better myself and I'm the op but on futher review I will be keeping it a plain Jane I have only had this rifle home for a few hours now and you know I think the straight stock will suit me just fine I think that is until I shoot it then I will reevaluate my options at a later time merry Christmas.

 

[REVL33]

First off I would never be seen with a monstronsity like that, let alone buy one, and secondly if that is not the ugliest gun, it comes mighty darn close.

I kind of like that myself not so much for the stock but the rest of the rifle is ok by me

 

[REVL33]

Alpo has already answered this, but I figured I'd drop a picture in here to clarify.

This is my Henry Big Boy in .45Colt. I've added an arrow pointing to the tang. You can just see it above the lever and at the bottom of the grip.

As you can see, this part of the metal would have to be curved to fit the curves of a pistol grip.[/Q

yes thank you for the pic I do understand now I just saw one of those exact models when I picked mine up today in 45. colt

 

[jimn]

I also think the lever action rifle was one of the earliest examples of a tactical rifle.
Here's one and someone that could make it sing.
The Rifleman.
The Rifleman - YouTube

 

[Gunhacker]

I also think the lever action rifle was one of the earliest examples of a tactical rifle.
Here's one and someone that could make it sing.
The Rifleman.
The Rifleman - YouTube

That... and John Wayne is what probably planted the lever action rifle bug in our young brains while most of us were growing up, or even recently for others...

I look at that "Rifleman" opening now and chuckle... the scowl on his face, like yeah, "I'm bad"... now looks to me like he only just smelled sometin' bad.

Just me being silly... I liked that show too. I had one of the toy "rifleman" rifles that had flip down metal "tab" inside of the trigger loop of the lever ( like what's on a gas pump handle) that you could raise to fire the rifle single shot, or lower so it depressed the trigger and go "rifleman" style. That would be a helluva accessory to market for a marlin...

 

[Old TexMex]

I was raised shooting a 94 in .25-35, and it had buckhorn sights. My dad mounted a 2x fore mount scope and it was an excellent brush country rifle. I have a (1953) 94 in .30-30 and I'm gonna fit a foremount on it soon. That and a sling make it about as tactical as need be.

 

[rwsmith]

Is is really for defense???

Is it really for defense?? Unless you are shooting at a distance I don't see where there needs to be any mods made to an 1894. It's quick handling in all aspects already. And I don't know where a paint job is going to increase its effectiveness one iota.

 

[bgrafsr]

You ain't seen one of them "California-legal" ARs, then, have you?



See, the pistol grip is NOT separate from the buttstock, so it is not an evil assault weapon.

Nope, and it's another uglier than sin monstrosity.

 

[Rastoff]

Hey, is this a Marlin 1894 we're talking about?

 

[REVL33]

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Is it really for defense?? Unless you are shooting at a distance I don't see where there needs to be any mods made to an 1894. It's quick handling in all aspects already. And I don't know where a paint job is going to increase its effectiveness one iota.

yes it is for defense also it will be a rifle I will introduce my young to shooting with when he gets to the maturity to learn how to be responsible with firearms and the finish is blue and I don't care for blue finish on guns. you are correct it wont make one iota in effectiveness other than to keep the rust off and satisfy my craving for a black rifle

 

[kwselke]

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yes it is for defense also it will be a rifle I will introduce my young to shooting with when he gets to the maturity to learn how to be responsible with firearms and the finish is blue and I don't care for blue finish on guns. you are correct it wont make one iota in effectiveness other than to keep the rust off and satisfy my craving for a black rifle

Train and learn to shoot well with any gun in your hands. You will learn quickly that it is more about your capabilities than how the gun looks or how many rounds are in the magazine..

 

[REVL33]

Train and learn to shoot well with any gun in your hands. You will learn quickly that it is more about your capabilities than how the gun looks or how many rounds are in the magazine..

exactly right that why my only guns are revolver mainly nothing against semi autos I would like one but I will never part with my 357. revolvers.

 

[REVL33]

hey everyone i hope all your christmas and new year holidays were fun and safe , i have question on my rifle i have noticed that the screw directly in front of my safety is coming loose after cycling the action can anybody please tell me the correct term for this screw i have looked at exploited views to try and determine the answer my guess is a hammer screw or carrier screw but not sure and it is on the right side forgot to mention that .

i did take it out and clean the threads and put blue lock tight on it and screwed it back in is this ok to do as im wondering if any parts can come out of place or misalign in the process any and all help is welcome and appreciated.

 

[tork'd]

any pics?

is it a marlin or win.

 

[manyguns]

I have the same rifle. I do not expect any defensive situations to be at great distance or I would use an AR. A ghost ring & paint of the front bead is about all you need. Stay inside 100 yds. & you will be amazed at what you can do with one of these in stock condition. All the junk just ruins the carrying & handling qualities.

 

[REVL33]

any pics?

is it a marlin or win.

marlin 1894 no I do not have any pics yet I need to take some soon.