Loaded on the nightstand?

Take a close look around your house, starting at the front door and the path that leads to your bedroom. Using your imagination, how many makeshift weapons did you see along the way? I'm talking about weapons that can be used to kill an innocent sleeping in their own bed. Lamps, fireplace pokers, sculptures, ash trays, kitchen knives, etc...

I will bet you can find quite a few. If a bad guy wants to arm himself on his way to my room, the last thing I want to worry about is loading my revolver when awakened. No sir, I want the bullets in position to take a quick trip to a vital area.

If you are afraid of having a loaded gun on the nightstand, go buy a bat. It is a lot cheaper than a gun.

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I own firearms. They are loaded. Most are readily accessible. My wife and I know how to use them.

My house is locked down at night. Our alarm system is a chihuahua and a wienerdog. Both work without batteries, and are very light sleepers!
Very Sound Advice!
 
I loaded the m&p with one in the tube and put it on my nightstand. Does this strike anyone as unsafe? Has anyone else done the same?

It would be strange not to have your guns loaded, I have a Mossy 500 and my 1911 next to my bed along with a 150lbs American Mastiff/German Shepherd mix.
 
If this guy is not harming the residents of the homes he breaks into, perhaps you should use a Taser, stun gun, pepper spray or baseball bat for defense, and not the more lethal option of a firearm. You can have your less-than-lethal defense product on the nightstand, and your handgun concealed nearby, not out in the open for the unwanted visitor to arm himself with.
I see NO reason whatever to take ANY risk to protect somebody who unlawfully KNOWINGLY enters an occupied dwelling. That's somebody who's either a risk taker or somebody who's working himself up to more extreme behavior.

If you don't want to get shot, you shouldn't be breaking into people's homes when they're there.

There was an episode of "Cold Case Files" where a guy heard a noise in his home late at night. He picked up a baseball bat and went to see what the noise was. It was a guy with a knife, who proceeded to stab him to death, rape his wife and set the house on fire. The wife was harassed for quite a while by the police, as their only suspect. Finally after around ten years, the real murderer/rapist was caught. The wife's closing comment on the show was that she wished that she'd been killed the night her husband was.

Still think the baseball bat is a good idea?
 
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ABSOLUTELY UNSAFE.

A loaded firearm, say in the bedroom at night (NO CHILDREN) should be 8-10 feet away from you.

This allows for some time and distance that you have to cross while waking up from a Nitemare!

This helps cut down on ACCIDENTIAL SHOOTING OF LOVED ONES.



Someone better brief said psycho to stand more than 10 feet from the people he watches.



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Chatted up an FBI agent >50 years ago who was speaker at our Kiwanis Club. He kept his loaded firearm ready to go - in a dresser drawer across the room. His rationale was he didn't want to shoot a loved one coming out of a deep sleep state...and if an intruder had the drop on you in bed you were basically screwed [ my words. not his - was a gent like most I've met].

For over 50 years now I have to get out of bed to get a firearm.

For an old fat man I can move pretty quick.

Best.
 
If the security of your sleeping place is so poor that a person can force their way in and stand over your bed while you sleep, the gun may be of little use. I would first focus on securing and hardening entry points. I would have some sort of method to alert you that someone is in your house. My house has a security system but my main alert system consists of two large dogs sleeping on the floor at the foot of my bed. I keep a shotgun and a pistol in my room. The shotgun has the magazine loaded and the chamber empty. The pistol has a loaded mag in it but an empty chamber I keep all of this along with my cellphone, a couple of lights and my landline phone within reach. We also shut and lock our bedroom door when we go to sleep. We are not comfortable having a firearm with a chambered round right in or next to the bed and I think we would get plenty of warning if an intruder tried to get in. Our daughter no longer lives at home so its just us and the dogs.
 
My Glock 30 with light and lazer sits in the nightstand draw. I live in the country and have never locked the door. I have a large female Shepard and she is a very good alarm system...she has her own door in and out of the house and patrols when ever she feels the need and she is a very good detcctor...An intruder would never make it to the bed room....they would have to shoot the dog....she does not like intruders and by that time.they would have to contend with the glock...or possibly the AR-15.
After I had a bear invasion...I got the GS alarm system and nothing has invaded since LOL.
 
If the security of your sleeping place is so poor that a person can force their way in and stand over your bed while you sleep, the gun may be of little use.


That sir, is a center-mass hit.



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If the security of your sleeping place is so poor that a person can force their way in and stand over your bed while you sleep, the gun may be of little use. I would first focus on securing and hardening entry points. I would have some sort of method to alert you that someone is in your house. My house has a security system but my main alert system consists of two large dogs sleeping on the floor at the foot of my bed. I keep a shotgun and a pistol in my room. The shotgun has the magazine loaded and the chamber empty. The pistol has a loaded mag in it but an empty chamber I keep all of this along with my cellphone, a couple of lights and my landline phone within reach. We also shut and lock our bedroom door when we go to sleep. We are not comfortable having a firearm with a chambered round right in or next to the bed and I think we would get plenty of warning if an intruder tried to get in. Our daughter no longer lives at home so its just us and the dogs.

I said the same in an earlier post but nobody listens.:rolleyes:

Time is your friend. Giving the bad guy the element of surprise is very bad.
 
I am alarmed.....at even the thought...
on a pro-gun forum.....someone would be afraid
to be 'locked and loaded'............
WITHIN ONE'S REACH ! :eek::eek::eek:

Asleep or not.

This is scary.
 
To the op; do whatever you feel makes you feel good and safe. Who cares whatever we all think is weird or strange.

To answer you, I don't think it's strange at all. I have 3 handguns locked and loaded all within reach.
 
House alarm + 3 dogs and finally 2 loaded S&W in our night stands. If someone has the balls to make it to the bedroom, they'll get what they deserve.
 
My suggestion:
Install a quality dead-bolt lock on your bedroom door. If someone is trying to get in, rack a round into the 12 guage pump you keep unter the bed (chamber empty). The sound will scare off anyone except homicidal killers and spaced-out drug users. If that all fails, use your tactical flashlight and the handgun in your night stand (mine is a S&W 5944 with 15 9mm hollow points).
I agree that the best alarm system is a protective pooch (Maggie the cockerpoodle).
It goes wthout saying that an expensive dead-bolt lock is no help if your door is a flimsy, hollow shell of 1/8th plywood.
Be careful out there,
Cockerpoodle
 
My suggestion:
Install a quality dead-bolt lock on your bedroom door. If someone is trying to get in, rack a round into the 12 guage pump you keep unter the bed (chamber empty). The sound will scare off anyone except homicidal killers and spaced-out drug users. If that all fails, use your tactical flashlight and the handgun in your night stand (mine is a S&W 5944 with 15 9mm hollow points).
I agree that the best alarm system is a protective pooch (Maggie the cockerpoodle).
It goes wthout saying that an expensive dead-bolt lock is no help if your door is a flimsy, hollow shell of 1/8th plywood.
Be careful out there,
Cockerpoodle

at that point i would not even bother racking around, if they already broke in the house and are trying to break in the bed room shotgun is being emptyed at the door fallowed by pistol shots if still needed, but i think 7 00 buck shots should do the job.
 
If someone is trying to get in, rack a round into the 12 guage pump you keep unter the bed (chamber empty). The sound will scare off anyone except homicidal killers and spaced-out drug users.
...OR it will tell them that you're not as serious about what you're doing as they are about what they're doing and cause them to (not unreasonably) take you for an easier target.

I expect no sort of "warning" from an assailant. He should expect none from me. If he runs, he doesn't get shot. Any other action makes the outcome doubtful for him.
 
In today's economy.....
I can no longer afford a warning shot.
My apologies to any bad guy that may
have any thoughts of breaching my personal
space un-invited.
It is what it is.
 
I appreciate the comments..
My main point is have a solid door and quality lock between you and an intruder. With a substantial barrier, I think a threatening sound (shotgun) is a reasonable prelude to deadly force. Anyone who would stay around after hearing a Mossberg 500 racked is a deadly threat.
I once was reading late at night when my dog alerted me. A prowler was testing the doors and windows on the outside. I used the Mossy to let him know that my house was a bad choice to rob. He quickly left. To me, that was a perfectly acceptable outcome.
Cockerpoodle
 
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I have an alarm system and a very territorial blue heeler/terrier mix rescue dog. (Grown men have backed away from our front door when she reacted to their presence.) I reckon I should be awake when I pick up my 3 inch S&W Model 13 and Eagle-Tac flashlight from the nightstand. Unless the wife decides that I've outlived my usefulness (The dog likes her best.), I should be okay.

ECS
 
I appreciate the comments..
My main point is have a solid door and quality lock between you and an intruder. With a substantial barrier, I think a threatening sound (shotgun) is a reasonable prelude to deadly force. Anyone who would stay around after hearing a Mossberg 500 racked is a deadly threat.
I once was reading late at night when my dog alerted me. A prowler was testing the doors and windows on the outside. I used the Mossy to let him know that my house was a bad choice to rob. He quickly left. To me, that was a perfectly acceptable outcome.
Cockerpoodle

The deadbolt on the bedroom door is a good idea. However most interior doors are hollow core doors that are so flimsy that a child could break it down.

And don't count on a bad guy being scared off by the sound of your shotgun. And if you've waited until the bad guy was just outside your bedroom door to rack the slide, you've waited too long.
 
our decisions. I am not going to tell another person how he/she should set up their defenses.

I am not going to tell anyone about my setup--or the .50 Barrett by my bed:o.

My 870 near the bathroom door is a secret, also. And so is my P226 afixed behind a dresser drawer out of sight. The gun I carry on a particular day will typically be on my nightstand--loaded.

No doubt, there are some people whose sleep habits and actions during sleep would be advised to have their weapon a step or two away. We're not all the same in that regard.
 
I keep mine with magazine loaded and chamber empty. Makes sure I have time to become aware.

While in the Service at Ft Ord, we came back from Stillwell Hall (EM Club on the beach) by hopping the fence, jay-walking PCH and hopping another fence. This brought us through the Quartermaster's area (railroad yard). The guard said "Halt", RACKED HIS SHOTGUN. " and repeated "I said, Halt!". We were NOT going anywhere! I swear the loudest sound in the world is the sound of an older (4-click) single action cocking in the dark!

Also, wife and I have a procedure: If she comes home late, she stops at the front door and calls out until I answer. AND, we have 3 dogs: 2 GSPs (one is crossbred with a Percheron!) and a "kick me" whippet cross.

Also, we both grew up in Los Angeles and lock our doors at night.
 
While in the Service at Ft Ord, we came back from Stillwell Hall (EM Club on the beach) by hopping the fence, jay-walking PCH and hopping another fence. This brought us through the Quartermaster's area (railroad yard). The guard said "Halt", RACKED HIS SHOTGUN. " and repeated "I said, Halt!".
You were also a bunch of drunken NCOs, NOT Hayes and Komisarjevsky.

You weren't bent on robbery, rape or murder. If you had been, it's doubtful that a mere mechanical sound would have stopped you. It MIGHT have changed your plans... or not.

I doubt that the average home invader/rapist reads firearms related message boards. It's entirely possible that he doesn't "know" that certain mechanical sounds are supposed to frighten him.

Of course too, I'd bet money that a sizeable portion of people advising others to rely upon the sound of a shotgun action also advise others not to open carry because "They'll be the first one shot." I don't see how calling attention to oneself being armed in one case is more advisable than in the other. If it's bad for a potential assailant to see your holstered firearm, how is it GOOD for him to be warned that you have a shotgun?
 
ABSOLUTELY UNSAFE.

A loaded firearm, say in the bedroom at night (NO CHILDREN) should be 8-10 feet away from you.

This allows for some time and distance that you have to cross while waking up from a Nitemare!

This helps cut down on ACCIDENTIAL SHOOTING OF LOVED ONES.

Yes and impairs the ability do defend ones self and loved ones when the intruder gets between you and your pistol 8-10 ft away.What happens when you wake up to this nightmare?
 
80 lbs of German Shepard in the hall way, on a nice LL bean dog bed, a S&W 19 .357 with 158 gr. SWC's on the night stand...12 gauge Mossberg, with buckshot in the closet.
 
Maybe I was sheltered growing up in Los Angeles, and living next to Compton (long-time record holder for per-capita homicides) but I have personally known two people to shoot family members (well, one was a boyfriend=and one was killed) and no one who was attacked in their bedroom in 63 years, over 50 of them in Cali.
 
Maybe I was sheltered growing up in Los Angeles, and living next to Compton (long-time record holder for per-capita homicides) but I have personally known two people to shoot family members (well, one was a boyfriend=and one was killed) and no one who was attacked in their bedroom in 63 years, over 50 of them in Cali.
Do you know anybody who has been subjected to a probable carjacking attempt (trying to force a vehicle off of the road) on an interstate? You do now.

By the way, didn't Richard Ramirez operate in L.A.?

I seem too to recall a Mexican national riding the rails, and jumping off of trains in various locations to break into homes and murder people, in their bedrooms if I'm not mistaken. I think he even killed one or more people here in Ohio.
 
Some good thoughts here, I agree with some I think are rather speculative IMVHO. in the army some years back I remember being instructed to wake up a relief by tapping his foot at a slight distance so if he woke up startled he would just start swinging. I later found however this is only prevalent in about 1 in 6 people and more so in young men under stress. All I can say to this is "know thyself and thy enemy and in 1000 battles one will not be defeated!" That being said..enough Tsun Tsu ;-) Do I dismiss such thoughts? No ,absolutely not. The following is something without doubt to consider and not dismiss, but comes under the heading of knowing yourself.We are responsible for our actions.
Owning a firearm is a great pleasure and right but too often when we become complacent we make mistakes.I'll share an embaressing but true story, My dad was a Police Sgt. after retiring he got a job delivering barer Bonds and carried as part of his job, myself and both my sisters had moved out and had families of our own. It was only him and my mom in the house. One visit for my mothers birthday comes to mind, the whole family came to celebrate, Dad was at work still but the party was to start when he got home...anyway as I, my sisters and their kids and husbands sat around chatting I heard a noise...I went into my dad's room and found my nephew pointing a loaded.38 detective special at me. I quietly spoke to Michael and took the firearm from him, unloaded it and put it away. It's embaresssing to say but Dad ever vigilient, screwed up, he woke up late for woke and left it loaded on the nightstand! Needless to say I took it to him when he came home...he grew complacent because there were no kids around anymore! I never forgot that lesson, he got lucky that day and never did either!
That being said, at the time, I was in law enforcement myself. I;ve seen both sides of the coin so to speak, I personally know of instances when people were suprised in their sleep by an intruder. I've dealt with people who specialized in B@E and seen the sad results of those unprepared who thought the Police were magicly hovering around like angels protecting them. I know better. If your going to have a firearm for home defense you need to have quick access while denying the same to a potential perp if possible. Otherwise keep it locked up. FWIW in every case where I asked a perp, the single factor that detered them from Breaking an entering and going elsewhere was NOT an alarm....it was a dog! The dog doesn't have to be big, noisey will do! I can go on and on, but I'll spare you and be brief, I keep a loaded pistol in the draw of my nightstand under a T shirt. Not immediately visable but I can draw it in easily when waking from my sleep. I have both a watch dog and a guard dog (there is a difference BTW) a small rescue mutt mix wachdog that yaps at the sound of anything gives plenty of warning, and a european Dobermann (Much larger then her American cousin) that's just growls and says come on in ...I dare ya. If I awake to find someone over me...well then they are super ninja! :-) nothing I could of done....except maybe my wife will cap him with the bersa thunder 380 she has in her night stand! ;-) Long story short, when I wake up the gun goes in the safe til nighty night time AS a Trained Habit or it goes in my holster to be carried out and about my daily affairs. We owe it to ourselves to protect our loved one's from bad guys....we also owe it to our loved one's to be ULTRA responsible! Just my two cents...sorry for the length!
 

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