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If someone were to "rip open my door" they would quickly be looking at the end of my gun barrel. BTW, I am 67 years old, have Heart Disease, Emphysema, COPD, and Arthritis in the radial head of both wrists and the first two joint of both thumb. To put it bluntly I have a disability in the Capacity to Defend myself. As a result Deadly Force is my only means of defense if I am attacked. Now a lot of folks are going to say I don't have grounds to be brandishing a handgun but a LOT of Courts do understand what this type of disability and will allow this type of display. Because the only other option for someone with this type of disability is to start shooting as soon as a physical assault starts.

At 68 years old and only 90 lbs. in weight it seems to me that cracker57's wife also has this disability. There are two things that really bother me about this situation. The first is that officer's failure to file Assault Charges. Perhaps he felt that because he didn't witness the assault he can't file charges and this may be true. However if the 911 tape transcripts verify that an assault did take places he should be talking to the local Prosecutor about this. Note, some may not be aware of it but making verbal threats actually is a form of Assault under the Law. So be mindful of what you say if someone has you really angry, you can talk yourself into jail. Second that officer could/should have thrown the book at that wrongway driver. Didn't see anything about her being hauled away in handcuffs. Here in the Detroit area if you get caught driving without a license your car gets searched, impounded, and you get to wear silver bracelets on your way to the jail. Piss the officer off enough and you'll get "lost" in the paperwork for a minimum of 24 hours.
 
Cracker57, hire an attorney to contact the prosecutor of the appropriate jurisdiction. It's a big club that you are not a member of, the attorney will represent your concerns and will most likely affect any possible charges they can bring. In other words, it shows you and your wife are serious about holding the said individual accountable.
 
Lucky you got a police response. Where I live, unless there is a SERIOUS injury the cops don't respond to traffic accidents, even those involving uninsured or unlicensed drivers. The fire department will come and hose the gasoline and antifreeze off the street, but the cops will not (usually).
 
The problem with pepper spray is if it doesn't work you really need a back up plan. Pepper spray is like a warning shot. Who's got the time ?
 
Forget the lawyer. If a person has no insurance they have no money. As the old saying goes, you can't get blood out of a turnip.
 
My wife is in her early 70s, in poor health & very frail. She refuses to carry pepper spray & does not take her personal safety seriously. We've been married 53 years so I insist on taking her anywhere she needs to go.
 
In this state my vehicle is an extension of my domicile. No duty to retreat. Ripping someones door open while threatening them would put a huge Bullseye on you.

There are lots of frustrated angry people out there, that can blow for no good reason. Men and women both. I misspend some time as a bounce in a popular bar. Sorry ladies., but I would much rather deal with a mad drunk guy, than a mad drunk woman or for that matter just a really mad woman.

3 or 4 years ago, I was in the middle lane of a 4 lane street in the largest city in the state. My phone rang, I signaled slowed and turned left into a large parking lot that open to the whole street side and stopped. Some guy pulled in behind me and proceeded to get out of his car screaming he should kill me for whatever. Obvious a Roid, muscle up, red faced and upset that I had the nerve to slow in front of him and impede him. I was sitting there car in gear, window only half down with a 396 44 special and a guy is threading to break my neck. What a moron. I responded in kind, ready to drive off if he actually tried to swing. I know I should have kept my mouth shut. But, I don't do well at that. I think when he got close and saw a huge man bark back he wised up, cause he turned around got back in his car and left. I would not have shot him, never even touched my gun, way to ready to just drive off and leave him standing.
 
gwpercle said:
The new play book is : when you are caught doing wrong ...
Accuse the other person of wrong doing and attack them with vigor !

"The best defense is a good offense. "
Gary
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It's not new. I've been using "Admit nothing, deny everything, demand proof, make counter accusations. . . " for years. My lead is "That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it . . . "
 
Think perhaps some of the posters here suggesting this wasn't a potential deadly force scenario need to revisit the facts of the original post and cross reference them against legal concepts such as disparity of force, ability, opportunity, jeopardy and preclusion; or, innocence, imminence, proportionality, avoidance and reasonableness.

Depending on local laws and DA's attitude, some of us might not have a good self-defense case here but OP's wife likely would. In some states, just hostilely approaching and opening someone's car door or advancing through their window triggers lethal self defense justification. Food for thought.

As to pepper spray/OC -- a good enough sometimes tool but should be understood to effectively deter about only half the time. Factor that into your plans...
 
I'd say that looking at this as a situation in which drawing/pointing is not justified is probably complacent. This will of course vary by the political environment in which you live. My policy is that no door is ever unlocked except to pass through it. Period.

My wife is small and has a real bad back. I'm not sure she could fight a 6 year old. The good news is that she often has a 95 lb. rottie mix with her, who is more than a little protective.
 
Borderboss said:
I've seen those statistics relative to stun guns, but not pepper spray. Can you direct us to your source?
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I got a BYRNA pepper ball pistol that fires OC and CS combo balls that will make you beg for mercy after two of those followed by a hard plastic kinetic ball. Leaves a circular bruise that looks like you got ringworm on steroids and makes you shed real tears. Ask me how I know.
 
Borderboss said:
I've seen those statistics relative to stun guns, but not pepper spray. Can you direct us to your source?
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I didn't cite an absolute number because there isn't one that I'm aware of, one that would ideally be the product of a variety of cross-referenced studies -- instead, pretty much only this lone one which found a 30% fail rate due to variability in the capsaicinoid concentrations:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0269/6417/files/hplc_utah_study.pdf?16129201179768941583

But based on the individual reporting of multiple LEOs with extensive patrol experience and OC use, the takeaway is it may yield compliance and it may not, based on several factors that can't always be anticipated, much less controlled.

Point being, if pepper spray is part of your self-defense plan, know its limitations in both delivery method and effectiveness and the very real chance of not yielding the desired result -- and so a plan for that eventuality.
 
Protocall_Design said:
Can you file civil and/or assault charges? I would be talking to a lawyer.
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The woman was a miscreant and should probably be put in jail for her behavior. If she did it once, she probably has done it before and will do it again.

On the other hand.......knowing how she acted would make me fear that if she were confronted by the authorities on your behalf she might just come after you in retaliation.

My gut feeling is that if the police file charges, so be it. As long as you are paid for the damages to the vehicle, just let it go. If not, sue for the damages. But I would not go the criminal charge route because I wouldn't want a criminal to have a personal grudge against me.

I know that may sound wussy, but sometimes discretion is the better part of valor.
 
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