Naples22
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Come on, no comments? I thought it was pretty funny.
Lone Ranger
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As long as it is not filmed in that fast, cut-action, stop, turn, freeze-frame, blurry turn, mentally imbalanced, distorted jumble of confusion melded with computer graphic enhancements and sims that they now use in most action pictures ....(almost barfed during "A Good Day to Die Hard" worsened by no plot and completely idiotic scenarios that you're supposed to be seduced into believing that flat out don't work) I think Johnny Depp will pull it off with a "unique" interpretation of Tonto. I'm thinking Depp will steal the movie as Tonto, just like Kilmer stole Tombstone as Doc Holliday.
cowart
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That was also the plot of the pilot for the original TV series. It appeared as the 1949 episode "Enter The Lone Ranger". I didn't get to see it until decades later.
You can see that episode now at
Lone Ranger - YouTube
mstuhr
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Cheer up
Howdy,
I'm not a Depp fan. The good news is, sooner or later the new Tonto will have to go to town by himself.
Thanks
Mike
Howdy,
I'm not a Depp fan. The good news is, sooner or later the new Tonto will have to go to town by himself.
Thanks
Mike
Texas Star
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Liberals in the movie industry have been messing with our interpretations of Indians and other peoples since the mid-1950's. They want to present them in a modern context, not as they were in the Old West or the days of the British Empire.
I'm pretty sure that this film will be PC, and promote Tonto as an equal to the Lone Ranger or as his boss. It's the Hollywood mindset. They have an agenda.
It's in publishing, too. The late Robert A. Heinlein was pressured to write certain things to advance that liberal agenda. I can't discuss much of what I'd like to on this board, but think I can say that in one book, the publisher didn't want the heroes to carry guns on Mars. Heinlein got them to compromise by saying that they had to have licenses.
It is a great problem for authors that almost all publishers live in NYC and have that cultural mindset. Of course, some authors like that. The individual writing as "Ed McBain" actively promoted gun control in his 87th Precindt books and taught a course for authors in Canada in which he espoused gun control as a desirable theme in books.
As for Johnny Depp, I think he's about three fish short of having a full stringer. When I see him on talk shows, he acts like he's on dope. ??
Re that makeup, I guess that Tonto has painted himself with a ghost warrior face to acknowledge the loss of some tribesmen in a battle, or something. It may be war paint. Or maybe he's mourning the devastation of the huge bison herds.
I wrote a Lost World fan fiction in which the savage Zanga tribe in Brazil were going after enemies. I got a kick out of having Chief Jacoba tell his men to paint their faces for war. Today, most know so little about Indians that they don't even know that painting their faces was done for various causes, war being one.
I'm pretty sure that this film will be PC, and promote Tonto as an equal to the Lone Ranger or as his boss. It's the Hollywood mindset. They have an agenda.
It's in publishing, too. The late Robert A. Heinlein was pressured to write certain things to advance that liberal agenda. I can't discuss much of what I'd like to on this board, but think I can say that in one book, the publisher didn't want the heroes to carry guns on Mars. Heinlein got them to compromise by saying that they had to have licenses.
It is a great problem for authors that almost all publishers live in NYC and have that cultural mindset. Of course, some authors like that. The individual writing as "Ed McBain" actively promoted gun control in his 87th Precindt books and taught a course for authors in Canada in which he espoused gun control as a desirable theme in books.
As for Johnny Depp, I think he's about three fish short of having a full stringer. When I see him on talk shows, he acts like he's on dope. ??
Re that makeup, I guess that Tonto has painted himself with a ghost warrior face to acknowledge the loss of some tribesmen in a battle, or something. It may be war paint. Or maybe he's mourning the devastation of the huge bison herds.
I wrote a Lost World fan fiction in which the savage Zanga tribe in Brazil were going after enemies. I got a kick out of having Chief Jacoba tell his men to paint their faces for war. Today, most know so little about Indians that they don't even know that painting their faces was done for various causes, war being one.
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Faulkner
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Some people are just not receptive to change. I recall a lot of brew-ha-ha before the True Grit remake was released. There was a lot of whining that only John Wayne could play Rooster Cogburn and therefore we ain't going to go see it. Well, you missed a pretty good movie if you skipped it.
By the way, it's just a movie.
By the way, it's just a movie.
model70hunter
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Lee in Quartz site, I remember sitting on the floor and listening to the Lone Ranger and others on the radio.
My baby daughter (25 years old) took her old Dad to see his childhood hero, The Lone Ranger, on the first evening it was released. What a huge disappointment. While NO ONE could ever replace Clayton Moore (in my memories), I was not expecting a Clayton Moore-type so I eliminated that prior to seeing it. I figured they might explore the darker side of the LR, like the Dark Knight / Batman scenario, but NOPE. Armie Hammer's portrayal was pathetic. They should have cast Clinton Spillsbury again (remember that other monumental flop in the early 1980s) instead of Armie Hammer. Actually, Arnold Schwarzenegger could have done a better job with the role. I truly believed Johnny Depp could save the movie from when first announced he'd portray Tonton, but, with all his effort. bizarre make-up and constant indecision of whether to be funny, serious, crazy or senile (he can't make up his mind which) .... it was a flat out disappointment, however, the opening scene of a kid in the 1930s-1940s dressed in his cowboy suit in the circus tent probably lit a few good memories of us older guys when having gun-toys and the cowboy hero outfit of our favorite character was an essential of our culture instead of a taboo of modern times. Tonto has been transformed into a cartoon-ish side-show freakish medicine man of Native-American (in our terms: Indian) instead of the scout and loyal friend of yesteryear. Armed with a dead bird on his head and layers of makeup like sun dried mud, cracking and checkering off his face. I suppose this nouveau approach was to disastrous attempt to bring "The Lone Ranger" into the 21st Century approval of a younger audience creating a new viewing audience for an old fictional, pre-super power, hero. It flat out did NOT work. The anticipation of an old timer (like myself) knowing how and what to expect ... during the flick you're waiting for the trumpeted notes to the mid section of the William Tell Overture (you KNOW it had to be in there somewhere someplace) ... it was a complete BUST !! Take if form a guy who had the Lone Ranger outfit as a kid, with the guns, mask, vest, boots and all ( as well as my chrome plated Mattel, shooting-shell Colt :: excuse the profanity :: 45 revolvers with the Greenie stick-em caps and chrome studded holster ), save your money, buy the enhanced DVDs of the old LR full length movies and TV serials ... while looking at them now are as corny as can be ... we can more relate to that with fond memories than look at the pathetic performance of Armie Hammer. There is only one star on the Hollywood walk of fame that is inscribed with the actor AS the character he portrayed ... "Clayton Moore, The Lone Ranger". Amen !
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gdnagle
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Yea I had the same feeling's about it. If I wanted to see a comedy I would have went to see a comedy, I went to see a western, shoot the bad guy, save the damsel in distress, save the ranch, you old timers know the rest. A little comedy in a western is OK but there was too much there for me.
P.S. I don't like singing cowboys either, sorry Gene and Roy, but did watch them just made, my own intermission during the singing. Nothing wrong with a good ol' fashion cowboy show.
Speaking of cowboys anyone remember the flying cowboy?
Hint "Out of the clear blue of the western sky comes ___ King"
Alpo
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Tonto means "stupid".Johnny Depp doesn't bother me, even though he is...quirky. One thing I've always wondered about is why Tonto is called Tonto? The Spanish word means silly, I believe.
Kemo Sabe means "the one who knows".
shouldazagged
Absent Comrade
The actual translation is, "Watch it, friend, Indians have long memories."
sigp220.45
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I must have benefited from low expectations - I saw it last week and really liked it.
It was too long at 2 1/2 hours but I was entertained throughout, and when the William Tell overture kicked in at the last part I got a little lump in my throat.
I'm still a little puzzled at the were-rabbits, but it wasn't a deal breaker.
It was too long at 2 1/2 hours but I was entertained throughout, and when the William Tell overture kicked in at the last part I got a little lump in my throat.
I'm still a little puzzled at the were-rabbits, but it wasn't a deal breaker.
Cocked & Locked
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I enjoyed the movie. Wasn't like the original versions but I liked it anyway.
