Look what the high water has flushed out

Go fishing in the Chowan river in NC, that place is full of brown water snakes and cottonmouth's.

I probably saw 20 or more cottonmouths every time I went to Chowan.
 
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Is this the first possible reason for the Governor? Sure, you can get shot shells for the .38 special but that .410 can hold a bunch more… And six times had better be enough I should think.
 
I see 'em all the time on the Chickhominy and lower James Rivers in Virginia. I don't pay them much mind. I flip duck blinds with them sunning on the blind.

I had one crawl up on the back of the boat once. I wacked it in the head with a flipping stick and it went somewhere else.
 
Actually that happened to a local insurance agent. He and his wife were fishing on one of the local lakes and got next to some brush with their boat. A large cottonmouth fell into the floor of the boat. The man promptly shot the snake with his 38spl but it took three shots.

A few words of advice, bullets travel through snakes rather easily. They also make holes in a flat bottom wooden boat. Wooden boats sink faster than one can paddle.


So...what happened to them? Did the boat sink?
 
I see 'em all the time on the Chickhominy and lower James Rivers in Virginia. I don't pay them much mind. I flip duck blinds with them sunning on the blind.

I had one crawl up on the back of the boat once. I wacked it in the head with a flipping stick and it went somewhere else.

Your lack of ophidiophobia serves you well, but most of us just squeal and reach for a shotgun and go nuts. That may be the leading reason for the continued high sales of cheap aluminum john boats.
 
So...what happened to them? Did the boat sink?

Boat half sunk. Filled up with water so badly that paddling was not an option. They waded out in waist deep water. His wife was mad at him for shooting the snake. He was mad at her for complaining.

Now they laugh about it. Not funny to them back then.
 
The Cottonmouth is the only snake that I have had to back away from. In Florida, while out in the boonies, I saw one and was going to shoot it. It turned the tables on me and chased me back to the car. I was too busy running to shriek like Justin Bieber!
 
I don't mean to contend with Faulkner. 1. because I like his posts and 2. because I don't know who's right. That snake is very common down hear in warm water. The backwater lakes off the Mississippi are full of them. 6 feet long specimins are common. Summer days would see the trees draped with them as they digested the lumps that segmented their bodies. Most old river rats called 'em Water Rattlers. Then more educated folks called them Banded Water Snakes. I've never known which was right. Snakes that I knew to be Cotton Mouths by the smell, fangs, and white mouth were mostly single colored, brown or black. The longest was 4 feet and most were less than 2. They share the diamond shaped head. The true Cotton Mouth swims with his whole body on top of the water. This fellow doesn't. They both have a nasty disposition. My buddy and I were catching frogs one night in Lake Enterprise, as far South as you can get and still be in Southeast Arkansas, when a heavy, flouncing, thumping hit the mid-section of the Jonboat. Neither of us could get our lights on him but both could remember the huge snakes that draped the limbs over our head in daylight. Luckily it turned out to be a 6 pound bass that had jumped into the boat. I'm not saying that this caused it. But I became a drinker for 20 years and my pal is still in a Baptist pulpit almost 60 years later.
 
Wait...What?

So I think that VM guy wouldn't shoot a snake because it reminds him of Justin Beaver....

GF
 
Had 1 encounter with a really cranky cottonmouth .... he was between me and the only path up the hill to where my truck was. After I finally got him out of the way ... I went straight home broke my wifes broom ( she had the expected reaction ) put my frog gig on the end of it and went back for my fishing gear. Yes I left it. She had the usual question " what are you doing " ... I'm going to get my stuff ... and if he's still there one of us is in for a bad day. Never saw one again .. up close anyway .. but always did have that frog gig with me too ... just in case.
 
I don't mean to contend with Faulkner. 1. because I like his posts and 2. because I don't know who's right. That snake is very common down hear in warm water. The backwater lakes off the Mississippi are full of them. 6 feet long specimins are common. Summer days would see the trees draped with them as they digested the lumps that segmented their bodies. Most old river rats called 'em Water Rattlers. Then more educated folks called them Banded Water Snakes. I've never known which was right. Snakes that I knew to be Cotton Mouths by the smell, fangs, and white mouth were mostly single colored, brown or black. The longest was 4 feet and most were less than 2. They share the diamond shaped head. The true Cotton Mouth swims with his whole body on top of the water. This fellow doesn't. They both have a nasty disposition. My buddy and I were catching frogs one night in Lake Enterprise, as far South as you can get and still be in Southeast Arkansas, when a heavy, flouncing, thumping hit the mid-section of the Jonboat. Neither of us could get our lights on him but both could remember the huge snakes that draped the limbs over our head in daylight. Luckily it turned out to be a 6 pound bass that had jumped into the boat. I'm not saying that this caused it. But I became a drinker for 20 years and my pal is still in a Baptist pulpit almost 60 years later.

I believe what you are describing is a brown water snake, very common throughout the South, and has a musky smell. I have encountered hundreds (no exaggeration) of cottonmouths, and they are usually short and fat. The brown water snake on the other hand, will get several feet long, and has a diamond shaped head that is often confused with a poisonous snake. Below is a picture of a brown water snake (not a cotton mouth) that came into our tent. For scale, I am 6' 4" tall.

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Actually that happened to a local insurance agent. He and his wife were fishing on one of the local lakes and got next to some brush with their boat. A large cottonmouth fell into the floor of the boat. The man promptly shot the snake with his 38spl but it took three shots.

A few words of advice, bullets travel through snakes rather easily. They also make holes in a flat bottom wooden boat. Wooden boats sink faster than one can paddle.

And real question here is "does the snake die faster than the boat sinks"?
 
Why?
It's in his home minding his own buisness.

I think it's adorable! (Seriously, I'm not scared of ANY snake or spider...scorpions are a different issue...they should be killed with thermonuclear fire! Yes, I was chased by a cottonmouth into the back of a Chevy 3/4 pickup...my best friend handled him with a shot from a 22 loaded with ratshot!)
 
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Keep in mind that real cottonmouths resemble copperheads when young, but the venom is more potent.

Both are of the genus Agkistrodon. (I'm spelling from memory; I think that's right.) The cottonmoutn is A. piscivorous, indicating that it's a fish eater.
It is well known for its aggressive nature. The venom causes severe necrosis, the death of tissue.

As for the snake in the boat syndrome, I once wrote a fan fiction where that occurred. The snake was a tropical American pit viper that causes many deaths. It is variously known as a terciopelo or yellow beard (Barba Amarilla).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bothrops_atrox
One of the dangerous ones often mistaken for the true Fer-de-Lance, which occurs only on Martinique. The heroine was about to shoot it when her distinguished scientist companion warned her that a bullet might pierce their canoe and told her to use a machete. She beheaded the snake, and they flipped it out of the canoe with a paddle. A big turtle got it as it sank. Dangerous place...The moral here is that it may be a good idea to have a machete in the boat, where legal. This assumes that the occupants of the boat are responsible adults capable of using a machete carefully and effectively.

Don't know if it's a good idea to shoot in a boat with shot shells in a revolver. Ricochets of the pellets might be really bad news. Could they pierce an aluminum hull, if they hit in a mass, maybe still in the plastic capsule?

T-Star
 
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