Looking for a 1-4x scope

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I am looking to get a 1-4x scope for my OR, here are my choices:
Leatherwood CMR
Nikon M-223 1-4x
Primary Arms 1-4x
Leupold Mark AR1-4x

If anyone has experience with these scopes please feel free to give me your opinions. My use for a scope will mostly on the range, maybe some hog hunting, or if need to defend my family if a worst case scenario happens. Also my budget is $350.
 
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I can only speak to the M223 which I have on my OR. It is bright, clear, holds zero even under rapid fire and is sturdy and typically high Nikon quality. FOR THE MONEY it is excellent. In the picture you can't see but there is space between the eyepiece and the BUIS.

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Nice looking rifle, which scope mount is that MPDC?

It is the Nikon mount with the added incline but this scope would do fine with the std. incline. One factor with the "spot on reticle" is that it has the 3 MOA center dot. It is great for fast acquisition and out to 100 yds. I can get close to 1 MOA groupings from a bench rest by covering the center spot on the target. For precision shooting, at a distance, the BDC reticle might serve better but would forfeit the fast on target the 3 MOA gives you (similar to a red dot).
 
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I have had great service from my Bushnell Banner Dusk & Dawn 1.75-4x scope. I found this one for under $100 and it is as bright and rugged as some of my scopes costing 3-4 times as much. There is a small circle where the thick crosshairs change to thin crosshairs that allows for accurate shooting and the circle works like a red dot for fast shots. This scope was designed for shotguns so it has plenty of eye relief and can take some serious recoil.

Mark
 
Not one of your choices, but right up there. Weaver 1x5 Tactical mounted in a LaRue M4 mount.


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I have had great service from my Bushnell Banner Dusk & Dawn 1.75-4x scope. I found this one for under $100 and it is as bright and rugged as some of my scopes costing 3-4 times as much. There is a small circle where the thick crosshairs change to thin crosshairs that allows for accurate shooting and the circle works like a red dot for fast shots. This scope was designed for shotguns so it has plenty of eye relief and can take some serious recoil.

Mark

I have one form Bushnell...I think it is an earlier model, on my M&P 15-22. (used it on another AR a long time ago) Works pretty good and for the money, I don't think you can do much better. The reticle is pretty good for acquiring a target quickly or for long shots (out to what a 4x is typically used for).
 
I have literally put 1000's of rounds under Nikon's M-223 1-4 Point Blank Reticle. It is one of my favorite Scopes. Huge fun when shooting steel inside of 200 yards. I have a buddy using it for 3 gun competition's as well.
Here's a video that will hopefully come thru, last part show's how quick the 1-4 let's you get on target.

New M-223 Nikon Riflescope - YouTube
 
Other than one scope, out of all my rifles with scopes they are all Bushnell's, I have always been very happy with the performance. The optics have all been clear and bright with no parallax problems for me. I cannot say about Bushnells customer service other than one I ordered came broken and they immediately replaced it, no questions asked. The one different is a centerpoint and I bought it because I wanted one right then and thats what I could find within my budget. It has worked well, I just dont know what rifle I will end up putting it on.
 
I have literally put 1000's of rounds under Nikon's M-223 1-4 Point Blank Reticle. It is one of my favorite Scopes. Huge fun when shooting steel inside of 200 yards. I have a buddy using it for 3 gun competition's as well.
Here's a video that will hopefully come thru, last part show's how quick the 1-4 let's you get on target.

New M-223 Nikon Riflescope - YouTube

Interesting video, more I look at the Nikon the more I think that's what I am looking for. Unfortunately the 1-4x is not eligible for the rebate but thats not a problem.
 
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Just because a scope is mounted on an AR instead of another type of
rifle does it have to be so called " tactical "? If your budget is 350.00
you could buy a Leupold VX-2 1-4 or with a little internet shopping a
Leupold VX-3 1.5-5. Check their website for information on the VX-3 line in particular. Very impressive.
 
The Nikon M-223 1-4 Point Blank Reticle with the BDC is a nice scope.

One thing I would recommend is that you keep away from scopes with decimal magnifications on the starting 1x range like 1.5 to 4 X - because at some point you will get tired of every view at close ranges being magnified.
 
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Just because a scope is mounted on an AR instead of another type of
rifle does it have to be so called " tactical "? If your budget is 350.00
you could buy a Leupold VX-2 1-4 or with a little internet shopping a
Leupold VX-3 1.5-5. Check their website for information on the VX-3 line in particular. Very impressive.

Doesn't have to be called tactical. You do post some nice choices though for scopes in his price range.

One can call it anything. However, given that the civilian AR platform is based in style, visual/physical profile, and operating function upon the tactical military platform, some people choose to stay with the genre' of tactical as a choice or out of necessity. The use of the civilian platform for hunting or other purposes is a matter of choice, but the platform at its core in style, visual profile, and basic operating function is still tactical despite its other uses or interpretation.

Generally, basically, and broadly (applies to tactical sighting optics/devices as well); A tactical scope is one with a purposed core function of sucessful and reliable engagement in a tactical environment and purpose designed/engineered for such engagement which also has a certain usability, repeatability, survivability, sustainability, profile specifically adpated to the rigors and needs of the tactical environment; The tactical scope use and function has engagement purposed features tactical in nature that actually have use within the scope of the term 'tactical', with a purposed core use intention of tactical engagement with a weapons platform intended to be used in a tactical engagement environment.

Unfortunately, the word 'tactical' is over used by the marketplace. Sometimes the term is applied in jest or theme such as "tactical bacon" or "tactical bottle opener", or as part of a marketing strategy for products that are not really tactical level quality or intent. Most if not all of the cheap/poor quality scopes to which the word 'tactical' is applied are not really tactical scopes at all. A lot of lower cost scope manufacturers, for example BSA -NCStar - etc..., attach the word "tactical" to their scopes simply because they have a certain look/style, in some cases a feature that is tactical looking in nature, and want to attract customers who think they would get a true tactical scope.

Fortunately, there is a cross over area in the market by quality manufacturers who do produce lines of tactical scopes at reasonable cost with different levels of features which provide purpose and function in the civilian market. There are three different basic category classes of tactical scopes; Close engagement magnified (variable or fixed magnification 1-3x or more recently 1-4x, intended primarily for quick target acquistion and engagement inside 300 meters for 1-4x and inside 200 meters for 1-3x while providing a precentage of hit reliability capability beyond those distances but inside the 600 meter range with some shooter aiming adjustment), Mil-dot (has reticle marks calibrated for NATO rounds), Dial-in calibrated (elevation adjustment calibrated for NATO rounds). Each of these basic categories may or may not have blended features from another category, variations in implementation of features, enhanced a feature for more versitility, or added a feature in such a way as to make it applicable to a wider range of uses. "Red Dot" 1x only sights (in the same definition of tactical scope above) are not considered tactical scopes, they are considered tactical sights even if a seperate magnifier is used with the sight.
 
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Yep and many are optimized for the .223/5.56 rounds in the case of reticles and scales.
 
Johnny, I think you made a soild choice that will fit your needs. Post some pics and let us know your thought's when you get some range time.
When it comes to target acquisition and getting a round down range, that scope will do the job.
I love the talk on tactical and what all it really means.I'm sure we could reach 100 posts ovdernight if we threw the question to the masses.

Here's a pic of one of my favorite AR's and my M-223 1-4 Point Blank Reticle. A buddy shot it and made me an offer I couldn't refuse! I hate that!

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