Looking for a 1911 9 mm that’s easy on brass

[WR Moore]

. One of the first things I was taught was to look for Incipient Case-Head Separation before reloading a round. .......... I'm sure this is one of the reasons Glock frowns on reloads.

OK, case head separation in bottle neck rifle cartridges is almost always due to brass flow resulting from excessive head space and repeated firings. Not really the issue with pistol cartridges.

ALL the firearms manufacturers frown upon hand loads/reloads.

FWIW, there are dies for .40 that allow the entire cartridge to pass through to eliminate "Glock belly". Don't know if any are available for 9 mm, you may want to check.

 

[cds43016]

OK, case head separation in bottle neck rifle cartridges is almost always due to brass flow resulting from excessive head space and repeated firings. Not really the issue with pistol cartridges.

ALL the firearms manufacturers frown upon hand loads/reloads.

FWIW, there are dies for .40 that allow the entire cartridge to pass through to eliminate "Glock belly". Don't know if any are available for 9 mm, you may want to check.

Your right the one on the rifle is caused by excessive head-space in the gun or the shoulder being set back too far by a sizing die. In both cases the brass is weakened above the case head. In the pistol it's caused by the bulge.

Bulge buster dies are not made for 9 mm because the case is not straight it's tapered. I have heard of people using Makaravov dies to take out the bulge in 9 mm. Bulged brass to me is compromised and isn't worth the risk considering how plentiful and cheap 9 mm brass is.

 

[Forrest r]

looks exactly like mine,, its 1 of many safe queens that i have,,, its never been shot,,,, i also have the big brother in 45acp identical to it,,, its a safe queen too,,, they are sweet looking

Mine get used, no safe queens

The 45acp ro holds it's own against the 9mm ro

 

[Marshal Kane]

Normally I would question this statement, but no need, the OP is an experienced reloader and doesn't need any help from me. But this is one of the reasons why my case gauges live in a drawer somewhere in my shop. I only have 4, 45 ACP guns and 3, 9mms and the plunk test works quite well for all my guns...

Another vote for the plunk test and 9mm. I have a Midway case gauge for 9mm and not all my reloads will gauge. I fussed and fumed over this for a long time until some article I read told me about the plunk test. It works! I might still gauge sometimes but more often I just use the chamber in the barrel. If it chambers, it will feed and shoot. Plain and simple.

 

[Marshal Kane]

. . . I recently started lubing my cases even with carbide dies. I thought for years that this is just a wasted step. Well, I was wrong. Sizing is so much easier.

Thank you again for your recommendations.

I started lubing with steel dies a long time ago and continued lubing when I switched to carbide. I did this for fear of scratching an expensive carbide die. It works and makes sizing so much easier. I'm glad others have found this out too. Thanks for your post.

 

[cds43016]

I finally got a PM-9. It's a great gun that's easy on the brass. It's almost as accurate out of the box as my match grade bullseye 1911s were.

I accomplished my goal. Reloads (including those with .358 coated bullets) will fire and feed without problem in all my guns and do pass the Shockbottle case gauge test.

Thanks for the input and recommendations.

 

[Fishslayer]

It works and makes sizing so much easier. I'm glad others have found this out too. Thanks for your post.

Anytime you respond to "Sizing is hard..." post out come the "PISTOL! CARBIDE! NO LUBE! BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!" people.

Because what you REALLY said was "Lube is necessary blah blah blah..."

I started a spritz of spray when I found out how easy it made sizing 9mm & haven't looked back. I mention it on other reloading boards occasionally just to watch the poor readers trip offline...