kimporter
Member
Seems someone had some of the dreaded nazi Christmas tree ornaments at the last show,offended someone and they got the media involved,What's the world coming to
Louisville gun show uproar
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That's not all that was there from what I read.Public shaming is a very potent weapon.I don't see any problem with giving the Klan and wannabe nazis grief.The real ones were just evil.The wannabes. deserve all the **** they get
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Genetically Swiss
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Then we should include Communists too, originals and contemporary. I mean, just to be inclusive and all. Evil is evil.
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CAJUNLAWYER
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First amendment is a great thing. People can exercise their rights to offend and those offended can exercise their rights to express their displeasure. These wankers with the nazi memorabila at gunshows do more harm to the gun people than anyone can imagine. Ditto with the Confederate battle flag. You know it is incendiary and pisses people off. Displaying it for that purpose is just plain bad manners. Leave that stuff at home! South lost the war-move on.
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Social media amplifies the outrage. One person can be upset, they put it on Faceplantbook or TWITer and all of a sudden it seems like everyone is in an uproar.
The media is comprised of lazy people who would rather parrot a bunch of garbonzo from social media than actually do their job.
As Cajunlawyer points out, this makes us all look bad.
The gun show operators can, and should, decide what should be for sale inside their shows. Bad publicity hurts not only us, but the vendors who aren't complete idiots.
First Amendment aside, it's the responsibility of every law abiding gun owner to present guns and gun ownership in the best light possible.
The media is comprised of lazy people who would rather parrot a bunch of garbonzo from social media than actually do their job.
As Cajunlawyer points out, this makes us all look bad.
The gun show operators can, and should, decide what should be for sale inside their shows. Bad publicity hurts not only us, but the vendors who aren't complete idiots.
First Amendment aside, it's the responsibility of every law abiding gun owner to present guns and gun ownership in the best light possible.
Rastoff
US Veteran
It seems that today you can't do anything without creating some giant upset. People are so easily offended. If I say, "God bless you" when someone sneezes I run the risk of being sued.
I try not to offend the majority and "get along".
But, just when did I lose the right to be offensive if I chose to be?
If I see some one displaying an anti gun slogan, I am offended. But, I am a big boy and grit my teeth.
I haven't got much use for the Nazi wanna Bs, the commie flag wavers, and a small list of other nit wits, but, hey in My America your free to be an idiot if you so chose. I just grit my teeth. Maybe thats why I have dentures.
But, just when did I lose the right to be offensive if I chose to be?
If I see some one displaying an anti gun slogan, I am offended. But, I am a big boy and grit my teeth.
I haven't got much use for the Nazi wanna Bs, the commie flag wavers, and a small list of other nit wits, but, hey in My America your free to be an idiot if you so chose. I just grit my teeth. Maybe thats why I have dentures.
What's even worse is the fact that the Not Zi tree ornaments are faker than a politician's smile.
Real items are a part of history, if you want em' fine, not me.
Real items are a part of history, if you want em' fine, not me.
shouldazagged
Absent Comrade
I have memories of WWII; when I was a kid the Klan was riding high in Tennessee; and I finished my growing up during the Cold War. I have no use at all for people pushing reproduction Nazi items, fake Soviet Union flags and gear, or anything whatso-damn-ever connected with the Klan or any other organization based on bigotry and hatred.
Seeing that stuff at a gun show or anywhere else would offend me. The people pushing it or buying it, especially that last category, have the First Amendment right to do so. I have the right to hold them beneath contempt, and I do.
Seeing that stuff at a gun show or anywhere else would offend me. The people pushing it or buying it, especially that last category, have the First Amendment right to do so. I have the right to hold them beneath contempt, and I do.
HOUSTON RICK
Member
Yes, but the same people who abhor Nazi stuff will happily buy Hanoi Jane's latest exercise tape. I have zero Nazi stuff, but understand the allure for those who do. There is more to WWII than the holocaust and more to the Civil War than slavery. There is more to the Vietnam war than My Lai. However atrocious, these are historical facts and pretending they did not or could not happen again is nonsense. The relics are part of remembering. Those believing in the hatred of others and waving them about and marching down the street with them remind us that for evil men to win, good men need only do nothing. The discrete selling of these items for private collections should offend no one. Lest we forget.
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shouldazagged
Absent Comrade
(A) I will never buy anyone's exercise tape, so that doesn't apply.
(B) I stipulated phony, reproduction stuff, not authentic memorabilia. People who collect genuine historical items are legit in my book.
(C) I never mentioned the Holocaust or slavery. I referred to bigotry, hatred, and Nazi fascism or anybody else's. I know more than enough history to be aware of the many factors involved in the Civil War, and the rise of Nazism.
(D) The Klan and its kindred organizations have no possible justification in my opinion, nor does the historical glamorizing of them that I'm also quite aware of.
(E) I also didn't mention My Lai. Vietnam was a war we shouldn't have fought, but did because people at the top didn't understand history. But I have profound respect for those sent to fight it, or who volunteered to go. They deserved a hell of a lot better than they received from a lot of the American public.
And finally, (F) I have only contempt for wannabes and troublemakers who buy and flaunt the fake Nazi and other stuff, especially the ones who wave Nazi flags and give the Nazi salute in public. If they want to do that among themselves in private, they're welcome to it. But when they do it in public it's offensive to me. I would hope it's repulsive to much of american citizenry.
(B) I stipulated phony, reproduction stuff, not authentic memorabilia. People who collect genuine historical items are legit in my book.
(C) I never mentioned the Holocaust or slavery. I referred to bigotry, hatred, and Nazi fascism or anybody else's. I know more than enough history to be aware of the many factors involved in the Civil War, and the rise of Nazism.
(D) The Klan and its kindred organizations have no possible justification in my opinion, nor does the historical glamorizing of them that I'm also quite aware of.
(E) I also didn't mention My Lai. Vietnam was a war we shouldn't have fought, but did because people at the top didn't understand history. But I have profound respect for those sent to fight it, or who volunteered to go. They deserved a hell of a lot better than they received from a lot of the American public.
And finally, (F) I have only contempt for wannabes and troublemakers who buy and flaunt the fake Nazi and other stuff, especially the ones who wave Nazi flags and give the Nazi salute in public. If they want to do that among themselves in private, they're welcome to it. But when they do it in public it's offensive to me. I would hope it's repulsive to much of american citizenry.
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keith44spl
Member
I tolerate other folk's intolerance...
And would kindly expect the same in return.
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And would kindly expect the same in return.
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Thankfully, we live in a free country . . .
HEY ! don't forget them folks with blue eyes. Them blue eye folks gotta upset someone (?)
ExcitableBoy
US Veteran
I don't know what happened to society that it has become so thin skinned and intolerant.
Why should anyone care that historical items were being sold at a gun show? I'm surprised that they didn't get upset that guns were being sold.
Why should anyone care that historical items were being sold at a gun show? I'm surprised that they didn't get upset that guns were being sold.
shouldazagged
Absent Comrade
They have the right to do that stuf, under the Constitution. And I and people who think they are sphincters have the right to dislike it and say so.
shouldazagged
Absent Comrade
They weren't "historical items", they were fakes, reproductions. The real historical items are legitimate collector pieces. I doubt that any real collectors would touch the stuff, but wannabes and neos go for it.
I'm out of this thread. Obviously I've studied too much history. If that makes me intolerant of people who haven't, and thus may want to repeat it, so be it.
Carry on.
ldausmc1369
US Veteran
I attended this show, saw the aforementioned items, and thought "***? Over?" The State Fair Board has now passed a resolution forbidding any vendor in any State Fair Board venue from selling Nazi related, KKK related or any other offensive items. Slippery slope here, as the liberals continue to gain power, I fear regulating gun shows out of State facilities is next. Been done in other locales due to stupid stuff. This show is in enough trouble and decline without this noise.
