M&P 10 Trigger?

[robertwhite]

Anyone know if there is an aftermarket trigger for the M&P 10 yet?

Shot mine for the first time today. Trigger is horrendous. The initial movement grinding is a known factor, but after that there is creep, a dead spot, and finally it goes bang. Literally, worse than a Glock trigger.

 

[Dino1]

I put an Apex sear block in mine and it was a huge improvement. The grttyness in my pistol was the plunger, if you depressed it you could feel it. Felt like their were ridges is the plunger bore even though that was not the case.

I would think that a trigger for a M&P .45 would fit. i read some where on this site that someone tried it and it worked for them. I believe they used an Apex forward sear kit. I have one in a .40 FS and it is an awsome trigger.

 

[malph]

Anyone know if there is an aftermarket trigger for the M&P 10 yet?

Shot mine for the first time today. Trigger is horrendous. The initial movement grinding is a known factor, but after that there is creep, a dead spot, and finally it goes bang. Literally, worse than a Glock trigger.

Wow. That is disappointing to hear.

You watch some of the YouTube reviews and they talk about the newly improved trigger.

I guess this says something about YouTube reviews.

 

[robertwhite]

I put an Apex sear block in mine and it was a huge improvement. The grttyness in my pistol was the plunger, if you depressed it you could feel it. Felt like their were ridges is the plunger bore even though that was not the case.

I would think that a trigger for a M&P .45 would fit. i read some where on this site that someone tried it and it worked for them. I believe they used an Apex forward sear kit. I have one in a .40 FS and it is an awsome trigger.

I am actually going to call Apex today. I want to make sure that the kit will work on this 10mm. As you said, the .45 should work as it is the same frame (supposedly). We shall see.

Wow. That is disappointing to hear.

You watch some of the YouTube reviews and they talk about the newly improved trigger.

I guess this says something about YouTube reviews.

I take anything I see on YouTube with a grain of salt. Never know who is shilling or has an agenda.

I can guarantee you that the trigger just plain sux.

 

[dla]

Anyone know if there is an aftermarket trigger for the M&P 10 yet?

Shot mine for the first time today. Trigger is horrendous. The initial movement grinding is a known factor, but after that there is creep, a dead spot, and finally it goes bang. Literally, worse than a Glock trigger.

Did you clean and lube it first?

 

[robertwhite]

Did you clean and lube it first?

Clean and lube the trigger? The pistol was feild stripped and lube prior to shooting it. The trigger however, remains pure krap.

 

[dla]

Clean and lube the trigger? The pistol was feild stripped and lube prior to shooting it. The trigger however, remains pure krap.

The reason I mention this is because the M&P has some very accessible engagement surfaces that respond very well to lubrication.

By the way, what sort of trigger were you expecting from a brand new stock striker-fired pistol?

 

[robertwhite]

By the way, what sort of trigger were you expecting from a brand new stock striker-fired pistol?

I wasn’t expecting Walther PPQ stock goodness, but better than Glock would certainly be nice.

The grinding/grittiness on initial pull is well known and documented at this point. I wasn’t however expecting a huge dead spot after the grind portion and the let off.

One would think that S&W could at least get a “decent” trigger after all these years. After all Walther has done it, and they produce a whole lot less than S&W does.

 

[robertwhite]

OK, so just spoke with Apex........

They do not at this time recommended the 2.0 trigger kit because they have not done R&D yet. They also didn’t know if it was being planned.

Back to the drawing board.

 

[LVSteve]

S&W really have dropped the ball on triggers. I don't know if it is a lawyer thing or rank incompetence. I can say for sure that I own other brands of polymer pistols with vastly superior triggers.

 

[Dino1]

Their is an adjustment on the M&P trigger that most folks don't know about and it has to do with trigger pull and timing of the sear engagement. It is the looped piece of metal that activates the sear. You bend and reshape the loop to change the timing of sear activation, which in turn changes the trigger take up before it hits the break. I would not recommend this adjustment for the faint of heart gunsmith because a little goes a long way with this mod.

 

[Ruger Nut]

Their is an adjustment on the M&P trigger that most folks don't know about and it has to do with trigger pull and timing of the sear engagement. It is the looped piece of metal that activates the sear. You bend and reshape the loop to change the timing of sear activation, which in turn changes the trigger take up before it hits the break. I would not recommend this adjustment for the faint of heart gunsmith because a little goes a long way with this mod.

I own several FS LE trade in 1.0 40 caliber M&P's. I have made a Hybrid 1.5 out of one of them. I installed a 2.0 SHB and 2.0 trigger and trigger bar. I had to make an adjustment on the loop. It was origanally .006". Final adjustment was .012". When you do this you have to adjust it a VERY little bit at a time! Adjust, check. Adjust, check, etc,.......until it's correct.
If anyone is getting rid of the new S&W flat trigger please PM me. I will take it off your hands.

 

[Imshootin]

I just picked up a 10mm yesterday. I was expecting the trigger to be on par with my 2.0 - 9mm - 5 inch. Definitely not the same. Kind of disappointed myself.

 

[Ruger Nut]

My cousin received his M&P 10mm today. The trigger is HORRENDOUS! Is S&W going backwards on its trigger development? My 2.0 Compact .40's trigger is 10X better than the 10mm trigger!
S&W, you REALLY dropped the ball on this trigger!

 

[robertwhite]

OK, a little update.......

Ordered an Apex trigger block plunger as another member suggested to me.

Two things.

1. Removing the rear sight even with a heavy duty Wheeler type set up is still a giant PIA. They might have well just cemented it in place, that’s how hard it was to get off.

2. There is no need to take the rear sight off. The plunger is no longer under the rear sight as all the M&P 2.0 videos (none I found for the 10mm) I’ve seen are. Access is via the RMR plate, and the job takes all of 3 minutes. Haven’t fired it yet, but it definitely makes a huge difference. That initial horrible grinding feeling is all but gone and it feels like most all other poly gun triggers.

Now if I had half a brain, I would have turned the slide over and seen that the plunger is not lined up under the rear sight, but unfortunately didn’t even cross my mind. Oh well, live and learn.

 

[Pjd832]

OK, so just spoke with Apex........

They do not at this time recommended the 2.0 trigger kit because they have not done R&D yet. They also didn’t know if it was being planned.

Back to the drawing board.

That’s odd because I was told the exact opposite by them, I have the m&p 10mm in both 4”& 4.6” and have the apex flat faced forward set sear kits in both. For what it’s worth ..I’ve got a little over 500 rounds through each with 0 issues in either.

 

[robertwhite]

That’s odd because I was told the exact opposite by them, I have the m&p 10mm in both 4”& 4.6” and have the apex flat faced forward set sear kits in both. For what it’s worth ..I’ve got a little over 500 rounds through each with 0 issues in either.

That’s pretty odd.

 

[hardluk1]

With some M&P's a striker block kit and some connector stoning and polishing are enough to give you a rather smooth lighter trigger pull . Also changing the grip insert so your pulling the trigger straight back not applying side pressure too goes a long way to smooth your trigger pull all though a longer reach 10mm/45 can limit finding that perfect reach to the trigger .
If you have a thumb safety then go for the FST trigger kit .

Trigger take on a striker fired pistol is not an issue but more of a head game some have to figure out . MY new 5" 40sw feels a like like a like old highly tuned s&w DA revolver trigger. Take up to a rather solid wall , a bit more pressure and it fires with a nice reset you can feel and hear . Not as light in pull weight as I tend to like but still a good easy to control trigger making it easy to shoot well and I'm a 3.5" trigger guy in general with 1911's or other m&p's with apex upgrades after several hand surgery's
and a loss of grip and smoothness of trigger finger function some 8 years back but better today. This new M&P will stay stocks I think as the 5lb 6oz trigger pull pretty darn good for now . .

You do not need to try to follow a triggers reset to shoot it well and fast IF that what your attempting to do . Might be a Sweep The Trigger style works better with time . Rob Leatham and a number of others teach and use this style for many years along with a number of others that may shoot both a striker fired and a 1911 pistol and is the same trigger pull style used for skeet / trap and bird hunters with shotguns .

Bottom line there no need to complain about your 10mm as you should know how to fix your concerns or felt the trigger pull at a gun shop and walked away then . Its an ether or issue easy to deal with or live with for some of us. If apex is needed you can find what you think your need .

 

[RAD57]

I didn't get a lemon trigger with my 2.0 10mm. I love the flat faced trigger much better than the APEX flat face and my trigger breaks at 4.25 lbs consistently. Still waiting if APEX will do anything, would be nice if they would confirm or deny what they currently have will work! Anyway it would also be really, really nice if S&W would get off their butts and get us some extra mags for sale!

 

[BigBelle]

My BCM fit correct. IF you keep searching you will find its the early model that had issues. Mind was fine. Shot great groups.