M&P 10mm

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Personally I'd like to see the 310 Nightguard come back. I don't think we'll ever see a 10mm S&W auto again.
 
People have been asking this for years, but never seen one. Not even a hint.

Then again, people said they wouldn't make a .45ACP Shield and here we have one. So, it may happen.
 
No. A 10mm won't happen.

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I guess this guy works for S&W R&D...

still... not likely unless it gets really popular again for some reason. That would be pretty dang cool to see a 10mm 2.0 long slide with a CORE setup...
 
Before you go wishing for a 10mm plastic pistol, you might want to touch off a couple of mags of real 10mm in a 1006 or some other all metal gun that's built for the 10. I don't include the 1911 in this list. I know Glock makes them. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea.
The 10mm when loaded to its full potential is quite a formidable round. Personally I'd prefer a platform fully up to the task.
 
That would be pretty dang cool to see a 10mm 2.0 long slide with a CORE setup...

Amen Brother! This is exactly the market they should be thinking about. Basically the same audience the Glock Model 40 is aimed at. Larger/stouter 45-sized frame, Long slide (5", 5.5" or 6"), adjustable sights, optic ready (i.e. CORE). This makes for a very competent hunting and field carry pistol which is where the 10mm shines in the first place. I would buy tomorrow if such a model were offered!!!

Would they sell the same number as they are going to of the 2.0 Compact, clearly not. But there is a market for such a pistol.

Mark in GA
 
I know a couple of buddies who have bought the 10mm Glock pretty cheap used. It is a small market and likely not one another high volume manufacturer would easily enter.
 
How 'bout a 10mm version of the 45 Shield?

An easy to carry but powerful gun for carrying in the woods has a lot of appeal. A gun like this is unlikely but never say never. S&W has made guns for a niche market before.

It would need a heavier slide than the 45 and even then it would be best to limit it use to SAAMI spec ammo, not the super hot loads from Underwood, Buffalo Bore and a couple of other small companies. Most 10mm enthusiasts use the numbers Norma printed on the box as a reference for "full power" but in real guns that ammo ran about 100 to 200 fps slower than advertised. The stuff from BB and UW is every bit as fast as they claim. Shooting the hottest 10mm ammo BB makes from a lightweight polymer gun would be as unwise as shooting the hottest 44 Ruger only magnum load they make out of my S&W 69. That sort of ammo has its place but you need to use common sense about what guns you use it in.

But even with the limitation of not being able to use the most powerful 10mm rounds available an easy to carry gun with 8 rounds of ammo that have 500-600 ft-lbs of power sounds really interesting to me. I looked hard at buying a Glock 29 but really did not like the way the thick frame felt in my hand.

When I was deciding to buy a 44 magnum revolver I was aware that the Ruger's can handle cartridges with a longer OAL loaded to higher pressures. But power was not the only factor so I bought a S&W 69 I am very happy with and live within its limitations. I could easily do the same with a single stack M&P 10mm.
 
Awesome! But probably blow-up in your hand!

I don't know man, but the SAAMI max pressure for the 10mm is only 2,500 psi more than 40 S&W and is 2,500 less than the 357 SIG.

A number of brave souls have converted 40 Shields to 357 SIG with good results.

CA Compliant .40 to .357 Sig M&P Shield Conversion Barrel

It would just be a matter of how much pressure the slide of the 45 Shield can take when locking the barrel shut.
 
In the early 90's I had a Colt Delta Elite. It's a 1911 style gun, but in 10mm. Worst gun I've ever owned and has ruined me for Colt ever since.

That gun malfunctioned on every magazine. I just don't think the 1911 design works well with a regular 5" slide and the 10mm round. Now, in crease that slide to 6" and they seem to work fine.

The Glock 20 has been around for a long time. From all accounts it seems to be a good gun. I don't see why an M&P in 10mm won't work.
 
I would love to see the M&P in 10mm, but I doubt it will ever happen. I was suprised when Sig came out with a P220 in 10mm. I bought a Glock 20 a few years back. It is a great gun and I am not the biggest fan of Glocks. The most important aspect about the Glock 20 is that it was designed from the ground up around the 10mm round and later adapted to the .45 ACP. Simply rechambering the .45 M&P to 10mm might be an issue, as some folks have seen in 10mm 1911s.
 
I have a glock 20 gen 4 and it handles the hottest loads just fine.not much more snap than my .45. I also have a sig tacops 1911 in 10mm and it is one hell of a shooter.there is NO reason S&W cannot make a M&P 10mm with a 5" barrel.It would sell just fine.I have been e-mailing them about this for a while.We can only hope they do it in 2018.10mm is getting very popular now.people are seeing that 10mm is not the recoil monster the magazines and online gun reviewers make it to be.
 
Some folks have hit on a key point here I think. The 10mm is a fairly hot round based not only on the SAAMI pressure spec but based on the powders that are used to achieve the higher performance people are expecting. Namely the more medium-slow pistol powders. Slower powders allow the round to stay within SAAMI spec but lengthen out the pressure curve over a longer period of time. This is exactly what is done with full loads in magnum revolver rounds (i.e. 357, 41, 44). The difference is that in a semi-auto there is a slide cycling back and forth. So there is a timing dynamic that comes into play.

This is why I think the 10mm in a short barrel and slide doesn't work well and why I think something like a 10mm Shield would never happen. At the other end though with a longer more weighty slide it slows things down and can be fairly well behaved with some longevity built into it.

The slower powders are also why a short barreled 10mm looses significant velocity performance. Again, just like a magnum revolver round (ie a snub 357). It yields a really loud and recoiling round, but one that is without the performance that was expected.

Mark in GA
 
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