M&P 10mm.

[Old Navy]

Seems like they are doing the same with the 631 in the new 327 Magnum. Excellent round for the J frame Airweights and what do they do, make 3" all steel, full lug gun.

 

[2c5s]

I have a full size M&P .45. Although I would like to see a 10mm M&P, my .45acp with DT 185's sting the hell out my hand. I could only imagine a hot 10mm. The harmonics with a hot .45acp are not pleasant. JMHO of course.

 

[Old Navy]

I have a full size M&P .45. Although I would like to see a 10mm M&P, my .45acp with DT 185's sting the hell out my hand. I could only imagine a hot 10mm. The harmonics with a hot .45acp are not pleasant. JMHO of course.

This old fart with arthritis in his hands can tell you for a fact that the 45ACP has more recoil then the 10mm does. The only thing is the 10 mm is way louder. I reload for 357, 10mm and 44 Mag and only thing I light load is some wad cutters for all three. It has more to due with bullet weight making for recoil, and 45ACP generally shoots 200/230 bullets and 10mm is mostly 170 to 180 gr loads.

The Glock 29SF sub-compact easy out shoots my Colt Delta Elite because it's easy to control and has poloygonal rifling and the 20SF is even better. I had an early M&P 45APC and the recoil made the gun a PIA compared to my 10mm's and was not as accurate as the Glock so I got rid of it.

 

[2c5s]

This old fart with arthritis in his hands can tell you for a fact that the 45ACP has more recoil then the 10mm does. The only thing is the 10 mm is way louder. I reload for 357, 10mm and 44 Mag and only thing I light load is some wad cutters for all three. It has more to due with bullet weight making for recoil, and 45ACP generally shoots 200/230 bullets and 10mm is mostly 170 to 180 gr loads.

The Glock 29SF sub-compact easy out shoots my Colt Delta Elite because it's easy to control and has poloygonal rifling and the 20SF is even better. I had an early M&P 45APC and the recoil made the gun a PIA compared to my 10mm's and was not as accurate as the Glock so I got rid of it.

Hmmm, I can shoot .45 230 ball all day out of my M&P, zero recoil issues and very pleasant. Load up some 185 gr. stingers and that's when the problems start. And no, recoil in itself does not bother me. The gun has a harmonics issue with hot .45's. To put it in perspective, I would rather shoot my 1911 3" 10mm with hot loads before the M&P.

 

[Old Navy]

Hmmm, I can shoot .45 230 ball all day out of my M&P, zero recoil issues and very pleasant. Load up some 185 gr. stingers and that's when the problems start. And no, recoil in itself does not bother me. The gun has a harmonics issue with hot .45's. To put it in perspective, I would rather shoot my 1911 3" 10mm with hot loads before the M&P.

The M&P I had had lot of barrel hop, more then the G20 of mine or the G21 of a friends for some reason and I was not able to get a decent group like I could with the Glocks, the M&P didn't hurt the hands either. I just could not hit with it, so I got rid of the gun. The polly guns have enough flex to help with recoil and they do not have that metal to metal slap that my 1006 & 1086 had, the 1911 does bother me some but I have not shot it that much to really tell.

When the bullets get heavier so does recoil, it psychics. But the vibrations are different, that has to do with other things like velocity and bullet design.

Would I buy a M&P 10 mm, maybe. I don't plink with the Glocks, they are SD weapons and they are excellent for that purpose so why spend the dollars. I am however trying to save for a Night Guard or 610 4" revolver. I lean toward the 610 because it's a shooter and will not shoot apart like the 310 NG if shot a lot.

 

[2c5s]

When the bullets get heavier so does recoil, it psychics. But the vibrations are different, that has to do with other things like velocity and bullet design.

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So you're saying if I load the same weight bullets but say a round nose vs. a hollow point the recoil is going to be different?

 

[Old Navy]

When the bullets get heavier so does recoil, it psychics. But the vibrations are different, that has to do with other things like velocity and bullet design.

So you're saying if I load the same weight bullets but say a round nose vs. a hollow point the recoil is going to be different?

No, what I didn't make clear was vibrations or harmonics are different they have to do with thinks like velocity, bullet design, also frame and slide design and materials used to make them.

Sorry about the uncompleted thought, but with two grandsons 2 & 5 in the house I am interrupted all the time as just now during writing this the youngest just climbed up next to me and had me put Blues Clues on the TV while he has his evening bottle.

Hope that helps and I didn't screw it up again.

 

[Old Navy]

Just in case you never seen a Glock, G29SF sub-compact & G20SF full size. Both with Cominolli safety installed and both always loaded and ready to go. The 29 I pocket carry a lot since it has the manual safety.

 

[2c5s]

Just in case you never seen a Glock, G29SF sub-compact & G20SF full size. Both with Cominolli safety installed and both always loaded and ready to go. The 29 I pocket carry a lot since it has the manual safety.

Oh, so that's what a Glock looks like. Thanks!

 

[Old Navy]

Fuggly ain't they.....kind of what I like about them.

 

[Shadow1006]

Not sure but there was some mention about S&W doing the M&P 10mm...maybe our ranting is not falling on deaf ears!

This would be much more usefull than the 310 NG.

 

[Badkarma 1]

If S&W did make an M&P in 10mm, there'd be a vapor trail leading to my dealers door!

 

[Old Navy]

If you folks want a 10mm M&P just hold of Zander's or Lew Horton's and tell them you want to place an order for 300 M&P's in 10 mm auto and I bet you would have them in 3 to 4 months.

 

[flyandscuba]

It sounds like the making of a "group buy". Put me down for one, or two! Anyone who is going to SHOT this year, stop by the S&W booth and exclaim how wonderful of a hunting sidearm the M&P10 long slide would be. Maybe if Ted would be the poster child for it like Gunny is for Glock -- the S&W execs would go for it. Even if it was offered strictly as a Performance Center pistol -- I'd be interested.

The other option is to convince one of the after-market barrel makers to do a run of 10mm barrels in the M&P45 profile & get Wolff to offer an extra heavy recoil spring. We could alter the feed lips of the existing 45 magazines ourselves to make a conversion possible.

 

[remat457]

Add me to the list towards that 300 min. quantity order

 

[Branned2010]

M&P10 with an extra 40S&W barrel

 

[Old Navy]

Well since I started this idea guess I better say I'm in to make it official.

 

[Shadow1006]

I would be happy with the M&P in 10mm in most any configuration but there are many posibilities...

OK here is the Ultimate Performance Center made M&P 10mm Full size 4.25" or 5" although 6" Long slide would be great for hunting model...
Interchangeable slides to match barrel lengths...
This package could include but not limited to...
4 cartridges one pistol!
10mm Barrel
40S&W Conversion Barrel
357SIG Conversion Barrel
9x25 Dillon Conversion Barrel
10+1 configuration Magazines
15+1 configuration Magazines
Night Sights Tactical is nice
Target Sights with adjustibale windage and elevation
Refined Trigger for target use
Recoil rods and Spring sets for different slides and cartridge use

 

[S&W1006]

Count me in too I have been itching for 1 since the first time I shot the M&P 40. I've had the Glock 20 for a long time but I would let it go for a M&P 10mm.

 

[jeremiahak]

I joined this forum just so I could put my name on this list. If anyone at S&W is listening please make the M&P in 10mm. For those of us in bear country we sure would appreciate it. I'd love a brush gun that is easier to carry then my 629 classic.