M&P 15 OE - Which Iron Sights or Optics to Add

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I can purchase from my local gun store a new M&P 15OR for $599. With the current $100 military rebate from S&W, that means at $499 I can own an AR for just the sake of owning one. I would only shoot it occasionally and since I live on a farm, I might take a shot or two at coyotes. I am wondering if it would be better to put iron sights on it (which ones?) or just an inexpensive optic (which one). Your suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Since you are keeping the prices down many people find Primary Arms' red dot sights pretty good and inexpensive.

Primary Arms

For iron BUIS, Troy is the benchmark but expensive (200+ for a set of folding) but Magpul and others make servicable alternatives for less.

All are available at the above linked store who I have dealt with alot and can't say enough good about the products and services.
 
Don't use the magpul sights on the OR front gas block. Although the Magpul sights are good sights, and reasonably priced, the magpul are plastic and will loosen over time, with repeated heating and cooling of the gas block from firing and you will find yourself having to re-zero frequently. Yes, i know people say thats not so, if you take a shot, wait, and fire again then maybe not as the heat build up is less because of a cycle like this, but i've tried them and get my stuff really hot sometimes and they have always loosened over time leading to a re-zero. I actually melted a magpul front sight base a little once, Magpul even tells you not to use the sight on the gas block for this very reason.

Like said above, the Troy sights are the "benchmark". However, there are some that are just as good and of the same calibur quality. You want the "same plane" sights. Take a look at the Yankee Hill sights > http://www.yankeehillmachine.com/store/sights.html, for example:

YHM-9627 - Same Plane Flip Front Sight - $85.50
YHM-9680 - Flip Rear Sight - $94.75 (I know it doesn't say 'same plane' but it really is)

There are others on that page also, the Q.D.S. Same Plane Sight System at Yankee Hilll is also a good setup, and a few dollars cheaper then the Troy set.

Do not get a "Gas Block Mounted" sight, as these are intended for gas blocks, most times, that set lower than the OR gas block. You want a same plane system for the OR model.

Other optics, the Primary Arms red dots is good for budget and those guys actually test everything and know it works, and will give good service for range or hunting for the intended use of the item. If your going with a more critical use then just range and paper then your going to spend some $$$ so go EoTech or AimPoint for red dots, I prefer the EoTech myself and the EoTech 512 is starting to show up in some places in deals and sales for right at $300.00, sometimes lower. The EoTech is not a normal red dot, its a holographic sight (dot seems to appear on the target and not in the scope) so its a little different but the same general idea. For red dot, you want a 1 MOA dot really for accuracy, its kinda hard to get an inch group with a dot thats 3 MOA in diameter at 100 yards (people do this, they get a red dot with a 3 MOA dot and wonder why they can't shoot inch groups with it at 100 yards then complain and blame the scope, duh...), and in practical real life critical use you want a 1 MOA dot maximum.

For the mixture of budget and quality, in terms of the red dot and BUIS, I'd go Primary Arms and Yankee Hill. By the way, you can find the yankee hill sights, and some others, along with the Red Dots at the Primary Arms web site (www.primaryarms.com). Thats about the only place I buy from any more for a lot of things, and they know about the products they carry too rather then just someone on the phone who just takes orders and wants to sell you something so you can call them and discuss your use with them and get the facts good or bad, and if you have a problem with it they will take it back and make it right for you.
 
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+1 for primary arms. I just got a EOTECH xps2 (not from pa but I did get it for $418 shipped), but I later noticed if you get it from them for a little more you get a free 3x magnifier. Something to think about.
 
+2 for Primary Arms. Shipping is incredibly fast and prices are very reasonable.
 
If your going to consider a 3X magnifier with a red dot sight, then I recommend the Primary Arms Deluxe 3X magnifier with either the flip to side mount or the quick disconnect mount.

The Primary Arms flip to side mounts are in their "second generation" (my wording), and have been re-designed. The first gen were a little loose and people did not like them that much because of the looseness, I had one of those and it was a little loose. However, I got their 3X deluxe magnifier and got their newely re-designed flip to side mount with it, very nice, stable, and not loose at all. So I would recommend the flip to side mount if your going with a magnifier too. In fact, we have put the re-designed flip to side thru some "torture testing" here and are planning on purchasing them for our tactical use to replace the more expensive and more damage prone "gotta have it because of the name and everyone raves about it" mounts we originally planned on, which leaves us some $$$$ for some other stuff. For the price and quality factor ya can't beat it.

By the way, If considering a sighting system in lieu of having iron sights, I would not do it. You really always want iron sights available for use as well as any other red dot type or other electronic sighting system. I never understood why people spend the money on the weapon then want to spend $20.00 on a cheap chinese knock off for it, don't go that route and get something with some quality, dependability, and reliability, to it.
 
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To add to the optics confusion with good facts go here Rifle Scope Terminology
I agree 100% with Foxtrot "I never understood why people spend the money on the weapon then want to spend $20.00 on a cheap chinese knock off for it, don't go that route and get something with some quality, dependability, and reliability, to it."
 
I can purchase from my local gun store a new M&P 15OR for $599. With the current $100 military rebate from S&W, that means at $499 I can own an AR for just the sake of owning one. I would only shoot it occasionally and since I live on a farm, I might take a shot or two at coyotes. I am wondering if it would be better to put iron sights on it (which ones?) or just an inexpensive optic (which one). Your suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

wow I'd grab 2 if i could get that deal, thats about half price that i paid for mine a little over a year ago, i would even love to find one at the $599, the or is a great rifle, i love mine:D
 
wow I'd grab 2 if i could get that deal, thats about half price that i paid for mine a little over a year ago, i would even love to find one at the $599, the or is a great rifle, i love mine:D

LOL... you're tellin me!
I'm almost ashamed to say what I paid for mine... :o
Thats what I get for getting mine at a Big Box store though (I knew goin in though!)

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I guess, I really can't be too much of a help on this topic, since I killed a few birds with a couple stones all at once...
Buuuut... You really shouldn't have a firearm, without atleast the most very basic of sights!
MBUS sights are a decent choice for back-up sights... keyword being (Back-up... AKA last resort sights)

Obviously, if you go with the Magpul sights... Its pretty much all around suggested that you do not mount the front sight on the gas-block... meaning you'll need a handguard with atleast a top rail!

I'd prolly go with an inexpensive optic (note, not a CHEAP optic)
 
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LOL... you're tellin me!
I'm almost ashamed to say what I paid for mine... :o
Thats what I get for getting mine at a Big Box store though (I knew goin in though!)

*EDIT*
I guess, I really can't be too much of a help on this topic, since I killed a few birds with a couple stones all at once...
Buuuut... You really shouldn't have a firearm, without atleast the most very basic of sights!
MBUS sights are a decent choice for back-up sights... keyword being (Back-up... AKA last resort sights)

Obviously, if you go with the Magpul sights... Its pretty much all around suggested that you do not mount the front sight on the gas-block... meaning you'll need a handguard with atleast a top rail!

I'd prolly go with an inexpensive optic (note, not a CHEAP optic)

well if your coming clean i will too the $599.00 not $499.00 is actually closer to half price of what i paid, guess I'm still trying to comfort myself on how much they have dropped the price.. i did start out using a utg removable caring handle and front site , now got a eotech and looking for a set of buis for it now:D
 
Well, better to pay a bit more and be happy with the purchase than pay a really low price for something you aren't satisfied with.

"A good deal is a state of mind." Convenience, service, instant gratification all can play into the equation.
 
I picked up my M&P15OR today for $599. It came with no case so maybe that is why it is less expensive than other model 811003's that I see advertised. The gun store I use, Smokin Guns, has an online webstore, Jet Guns and they are now selling them for $699 online or $649 picked up in the store, while supplies last. They told me the newest batch they received has gone up in price.

And now the search for optics begin. Thanks for all the advice.
 
Jet Guns and they are now selling them for $699 online or $649 picked up in the store, while supplies last. They told me the newest batch they received has gone up in price.
I ended up biting on the Jet Guns deal today. Too good to pass up.

I'm jealous of your sweet local deals. My local gun store wants north of $800 for their cheapest USED M&P15's. He says he can't compete on price with the internet stores. I agree. ;)
 
I have a set of buis in the for sale section Troy flip ups with the S&W logo. If anyone needs a good sight to mount to the gas block.
 
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