M&P 2.0 Police adoption??

[Nate223]

Has the M&P 2.0 been tested or adopted by any police departments for duty use? I am only asking because I generally don't purchase handguns unless they have been tested by a military or police agency.

 

[OKFC05]

Does the recent Military competition count for you? SIG won, but S&W submitted essentially the 2.0.

 

[Arik]

Possibly some dep out there authorized them but too new to know.

Not all departments do testing. And not all military testing is fair and balanced. I would simply look at the overall history of the manufacturer and model. Maybe something new you may want to consider waiting till more tests are done whether by LE/Mil/civilian

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[dben002]

Why do you limit your choices...there are many great firearms on the market that never get "tested" by either group....

 

[Harper]

Seems like a rather restrictive policy, and misguided to boot. Having been in the military (infantry officer and 'Nam combat vet) and having more than my share of LE contacts.....I say mil/LE testing is a poor measure of effectiveness of a personal weapon. You're not going to war with your concealed carry weapon.

Then again, if you ARE going to war with your proposed EDC, well, good luck with that!

 

[Arik]

Seems like a rather restrictive policy, and misguided to boot. Having been in the military (infantry officer and 'Nam combat vet) and having more than my share of LE contacts.....I say mil/LE testing is a poor measure of effectiveness of a personal weapon. You're not going to war with your concealed carry weapon.

Then again, if you ARE going to war with your proposed EDC, well, good luck with that!

I don't know, seems Sig P series, HK USPs, Glocks, M&P, Beretta 92 have all been thoroughly tested by LE and military and have proven to be tough reliable guns. Not sure why that's a poor measure

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[Motorsporting]

I don't know, seems Sig P series, HK USPs, Glocks, M&P, Beretta 92 have all been thoroughly tested by LE and military and have proven to be tough reliable guns. Not sure why that's a poor measure

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I think maybe the idea that the government picked the contract (often the lowest bidder) sometimes suggests to some people that "this is a poor measure" to base a decision on. What I believe is that the later iterations of military weapons, are much more improved than the first. 1911s led to 1911A1; M16 led to M16A1, A2; Beretta M9 led to M9A1, A3, and so on. The first generations go through some "real tests" in the field ...

 

[Arik]

I think maybe the idea that the government picked the contract (often the lowest bidder) sometimes suggests to some people that "this is a poor measure" to base a decision on. What I believe is that the later iterations of military weapons, are much more improved than the first. 1911s led to 1911A1; M16 led to M16A1, A2; Beretta M9 led to M9A1, A3, and so on. The first generations go through some "real tests" in the field ...

Not sure how much experience you have with gov contracts. I have some.

It's not the lowest bidder. It's who can build (including profit, salary, transportation, food, etc) to a specific standard using the least amount of money. In other words the guy who automatically up charged everything will lose out to the one who didn't, or upcharged less. Contractors often try to include as much toys and luxury items as possible into the contract. All of a sudden the owner needs a private limo to get to the office! I know one guy who suddenly needed to fly first class. Biding isn't just about the product but everything that goes into making it, including showing up to work.

On the one hand we complain about gov overspending but when they set certain parameters we call it "the lowest bidder".

Anyway, most of the M9 improvement over the years doesn't involve reliability. Like the M9A1 upgrade added a rail, more aggressive front and backstrap checkering and a beveled magazine well for easier reloading of the weapon.
M9A3 changed the finish, removable wrap around grip, removable sights, universal slide to change from safety to decocker only easier, otherwise the guns are the same.

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[SurielXV]

Just my 2 cents but MIL/LE do not choose the best, most advanced or otherwise innovative pistols. They seem to pick middle ground between cost and performance. Not the best, bank breaking firearms and not the cheapest friday-night specials either.

I would figure out the budget and then look at the firearms that fall with in, compare those to whatever specifications meet your needs and go from there

 

[Harper]

Just my 2 cents but MIL/LE do not choose the best, most advanced or otherwise innovative pistols. They seem to pick middle ground between cost and performance. Not the best, bank breaking firearms and not the cheapest friday-night specials either.

I would figure out the budget and then look at the firearms that fall with in, compare those to whatever specifications meet your needs and go from there

Nor does a military or even LE choice of firearms mean that it's a good pick for a civilian's EDC weapon. That was my whole point. They all have specific requirements that don't necessarily line up with what might constitute a desirable EDC weapon.

 

[shawn mccarver]

Has the M&P 2.0 been tested or adopted by any police departments for duty use? I am only asking because I generally don't purchase handguns unless they have been tested by a military or police agency.

These models are ones that I can think of that have been extensively tested both in the US and abroad, and adopted extensively for police or military usage in the US and abroad:

Beretta M9 or 92FS, PX4
Browning High Power, also called the FN GP35
Colt 1911
CZ75B
Glocks in most calibers and models
HK VP70, HK P9S, P7, P7 M8, USP, P8, P10, P2000, HK45, P30, VP9, etc.
Manurhin MR73
Ruger GP100, P89, P90
SIG P210, also known as Swiss Arms P210 or SIG P49
SIG Sauer P220, also called P75 or Browning BDA
SIG Sauer P225, also called P6
SIG Sauer P226, also called MK 25
SIG Sauer 228, also called M11
SIG Sauer P229
SIG Sauer P2022, also called SIG Pro, or SIG 2009
SIG P320, also called M17 or M18, depending on frame and slide size fitted
S&W Autos and Revolvers of almost any model in the currently popular defense calibers
Walther PP, PPK, PPK/S, P38, P1, P4, P5, P99, P99Q, PPQ, PPQ M1, PPQ M2, the newest PPQ M3.

Honestly, if you cannot find one that meets your needs in the above list of extensively tested, and widely adopted pistols, then you are too picky.

 

[dsk]

Just my 2 cents but MIL/LE do not choose the best, most advanced or otherwise innovative pistols. They seem to pick middle ground between cost and performance. Not the best, bank breaking firearms and not the cheapest friday-night specials either.

Agencies will usually choose the lowest-cost package (guns, parts, mags, support) that meets or exceeds their testing and criteria. It's pretty hard to go in front of the city council and justify why you had to spend $900,000 on new H&Ks when Glocks met the same requirements and could have been purchased for $450,000. One of the reasons why we're seeing more and more M&Ps in police holsters these days is because S&W has gotten very aggressive on pricing as they fight Glock for these contracts.

 

[Gun Smoke]

The original M&P pistols are in many PD holsters and the 2.0 is an improvement on the tried and true 1.0 pistols so they will be accepted by law enforcement when it comes time and their budgets allow them to purchase new duty weapons.....The Sig P320 the military contract went to was mostly about cost as several pistols met the standards but Sig agreed to supply new pistols for $250.00 and will supply parts for much less than cost because Sig knows the gun buying public will be wanting the same pistol the military uses and they will make a large profit selling the guns to citizens....It's not always about who makes the best product but who markets their product best....

 

[sbooth47]

Orange County ca police officer here. I've been carrying my 2.0 with an apex trigger for a few months on duty. Had the choice between the 2.0, p320, glock 17,34 or the vp9.

 

[Nicefish]

For what it's worth I think Hamilton County Sheriff's are allowed to carry M&P's (Cincinnati area).

 

[mrmike7189]

Of course The MA state Police carry M&P's in 45acp......home of S&W is Springfield,MA, bet they gave them a sweet deal?

 

[Valkahuna]

Orange County ca police officer here. I've been carrying my 2.0 with an apex trigger for a few months on duty. Had the choice between the 2.0, p320, glock 17,34 or the vp9.

Thanks for your service, Sir!

 

[SurielXV]

Of course The MA state Police carry M&P's in 45acp......home of S&W is Springfield,MA, bet they gave them a sweet deal?

The thing that gets me is that MA is home of S&W but the gun laws are so bad lol.

It's like Jack Daniels being made in a 'dry' county

 

[fallhunter]

Guys here are not liking the 2.0 for duty use. The texture on the grip is too rough.

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[bronco45]

I worked for a state agency that issued 140 officers new weapons. It was 1996 and I was on the selection committee. We were all non-uniformed personnel and 70/30 mix male/female. I recommended Sig 239 and or S&W 3913. Both were rejected due to cost. Glock 23s were purchased based on cost alone. Admin bitched when we ordered extra magazines and demanded 300 rounds per person for familiarization as we transitioned from Model 19s to Glock 40. Money was always the prime consideration, despite input from survival and marksmanship trainers.
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As an aside I purchased my issue 19 2.5" when offered for $200.00 bucks.