M&P 22 Compact - compensator?

[taylorkh]

A couple of months ago I purchased a Beretta 21A pocket .22 at a local gun show. Not something I would normally be interested in but I recall the tilt up Berettas from the Stoeger catalog back before 1968. I have not had so much fun with a pistol in a long time. In the couple of months I have owned it, less 3 weeks back at the factory to fix a safety vs. sear issue, I have put more than 1,000 rounds through the little derelict pocket gun. Moving on to S&W...

I have decided I like blasting cheap .22 LR better than more serious bullseye shooting at the moment so I was considering adding a M&P 22 Compact to the armory. I like everything about the pistol EXCEPT that it comes with a threaded barrel. I doubt that more than 1/10 of 1% of owners will ever add a suppressor. I am not willing to go through the hassle to obtain one. And then there is the issue which I have read about concerning the difficulty in removing the muzzle adapter which is necessary to field strip the pistol.

The threaded barrel is a useless addition - sort of like the human appendix or the cut in the barrel of a civilian AR carbine for the M203. That said, I feel rather offended by S&W. "We threaded the barrel for a suppressor but you don't have one, nya nya na nya nya."

Now that I have vented that... The threads could be used to add a compensator. Not really necessary on a .22 unless one is shooting international rapid fire or something like that but it would look neat. Does anyone know of a source for a screw on compensator which would fit the M&P 22?

TIA,

Ken

p.s. I guess I could upgrade from my High Standard Supermatic to a Hammerli X-Esse or Feinwerkbau AW93 and forget about this bottom feeding but it is so much fun

 

[CB3]

If the threaded barrel is a problem for you, why not just buy the full size .22? Forget the suppressor. Solves all your problems.

 

[seldon14]

Not sure I get the complaint about the threaded barrel. If you just leave the thread protector on it what difference does it make?

 

[Saudade]

Any muzzle device does not thread directly on the barrrel. It uses a barrel adapter and has a 1/2x28 pitch so you can mount pretty much whatever you want.

S&W M&P 22LR 1/2x28tpi Steel Thread Adapter with black oxide fluted Thread Protector

 

[BigDog48]

The threaded barrel and its cover don't extend past the dust cover/frame, so I'm not sure why you care. They're fun little M&Ps.

 

[murphydog]

I think pretty much any suppressor advertised for .22 LR, and the proper threads, will fit. Be prepared to pay more than the gun (in cost and fees) for one.

 

[taylorkh]

Thanks folks,

I do not need another full size .22 and it is my understanding that the full size M&P 22 is made by Walther (or Unirex sp?) in Germany and is not that well made.

The threaded barrel - first it is just on principle and, as a practical matter it makes the no tools, 5 second field strip into a find the wrench, hope it does not break when removing the adapter affair.

Yes, I realize I can fit anything desired to the 1/2x24 threads. I desire a compensator, that is what I am looking for. I could fit an AR flash hider but I am not sure that would be helpful.

I understand that the threaded barrel does not protrude from the slide. Even the one without the barrel to 1/2x28 adapter has a shorter adapter or bushing screwed onto the barrel. This part must be removed to field strip I believe.

I do not really care what suppressors fit or don't fit. Per my original post I am not interested in playing the suppressor game.

Ken

 

[murphydog]

Ah, you wrote "compensator", not "suppressor".

There are several that fit this model available online, in the $30-40 range. Someone here probably has experience with one and will let you know how they work.

 

[Gene L]

I'm not sure you'll be able to see the front sight with anything screwed to the barrel.

 

[lscocoa]

I bought a compact with the thread adapter, mostly because I wanted the flat dark earth model. It came with the tool to remove the thread adapter which I wasn't planning on using so I called S&W and bought a thread protector to replace the adapter. I like mine short but do appreciate the compensator on a 22 , like the victory. I've not found any ammo it won't run so I think you would enjoy getting one and if you do get one and comp it take a pic and tell us how it runs ! You got me thinking.

 

[mckenney99]

I have the S&W M&P Compact 22 with a threaded barrel for use with a suppressor. The threaded barrel has a thread protector on it that is the same diameter/profile as the barrel. You do not have to remove the thread protector to disassemble the pistol. If you remove the thread protector and then install the 1/2x28 thread adapter to install any type of muzzle device only then must you remove the thread adapter to disassemble the pistol.

 

[taylorkh]

Thanks murphydpg,

I know there are compensators for the AR rifle with this thread. I think they might be overkill on the .22LR. What would I search for to locate a PISTOL compensator?

Thank Gene L,

I have seen a couple of videos where folks installed a suppressor on the M&P 22. The front sight seemed to be tall enough to see over the suppressor. A local dealer has one in stock with the adapter. I will bring an AR flash hider to the store and see how it fits and the visibility. An AR compensator would be about the same diameter as the flash hider so that should be a good check of sight alignment.

Thanks Iscocca,

A heck of note when you have to buy extra parts NOT to use the included adapter.

Thanks mckenney99,

I appreciate the clarification. The only pistol in stock locally had the adapter which blocked disassemble. These seem to be easier to find that the ones with the thread protector hidden inside the slide.

Ken

 

[mckenney99]

taylorkh - if you have no need for the 1/2x28 thread adapter then I believe the model you are looking for is SKU#108390 with a UPC# 022188083903. I have shot the daylights out of mine with a large variety of different ammo with virtually no problems other than the few that are common with any 22LR. For me, it has been huge fun to plink with and as a host for a suppressor it has worked extremely well to introduce very gun shy new shooters to the sport.

 

[taylorkh]

Thanks again mckenney99,

The dealer was looking at RSR where he gets a lot of S&W guns I think. This model was out of stock. The picture on the RSR site is worth a look. The rear sight is FULL elevated - anti-aircraft fire against low flying planes I guess (or trying to match Jerry Miculec's 1,000 yard shot with a 9mm)

I did a search on "pistol compensator" and found a bunch of useless items - holes uniformly placed around the whole device. The idea is to reduce muzzle rise, not mitigate the recoil of a .22LR. I did find one vendor which makes the Game Changerand Game Changer PRO which look like what I am after.

Ken

 

[Gene L]

I bought mine especially for a suppressor. It's been a while, and it could have been a Walther (which is essentially the same) and could not see the front sight with the suppressor installed. Got the extension "target" addition, a misnomer. The pistol wasn't accurate in either the short or long versions. And with the one I owned, there was no provision to fit a red-dot or other optical sight which would have raised the sighting plain above the bore. I got rid of it, got a Buckmart which I had threaded or maybe it was threaded when I bought it...can't remember. FAR superior, and quite accurate, but not as handy it weighed a lot more.

If you watch the very good movie "Dinner Rush" you'll see what I think is a suppressed p 22 in action.

 

[D Brown]

A couple of months ago I purchased a Beretta 21A pocket .22 at a local gun show. Not something I would normally be interested in but I recall the tilt up Berettas from the Stoeger catalog back before 1968. I have not had so much fun with a pistol in a long time. In the couple of months I have owned it, less 3 weeks back at the factory to fix a safety vs. sear issue, I have put more than 1,000 rounds through the little derelict pocket gun. Moving on to S&W...

I have decided I like blasting cheap .22 LR better than more serious bullseye shooting at the moment so I was considering adding a M&P 22 Compact to the armory. I like everything about the pistol EXCEPT that it comes with a threaded barrel. I doubt that more than 1/10 of 1% of owners will ever add a suppressor. I am not willing to go through the hassle to obtain one. And then there is the issue which I have read about concerning the difficulty in removing the muzzle adapter which is necessary to field strip the pistol.

The threaded barrel is a useless addition - sort of like the human appendix or the cut in the barrel of a civilian AR carbine for the M203. That said, I feel rather offended by S&W. "We threaded the barrel for a suppressor but you don't have one, nya nya na nya nya."

Now that I have vented that... The threads could be used to add a compensator. Not really necessary on a .22 unless one is shooting international rapid fire or something like that but it would look neat. Does anyone know of a source for a screw on compensator which would fit the M&P 22?

TIA,

Ken

p.s. I guess I could upgrade from my High Standard Supermatic to a Hammerli X-Esse or Feinwerkbau AW93 and forget about this bottom feeding but it is so much fun

I think you've been misinformed about the necessity of removing the muzzle cap in order to field strip the M&P 22 Compact. It's definitely not necessary.

I have a ball with mine, and would recommend this model to anyone looking for a nice .22 Plinker.

 

[Saudade]

I think you've been misinformed about the necessity of removing the muzzle cap in order to field strip the M&P 22 Compact. It's definitely not necessary. <snip>

He's referring to the threaded adapter to mount a suppressor or other muzzle device, not the barrel's thread protector.

 

[D Brown]

He's referring to the threaded adapter to mount a suppressor or other muzzle device, not the barrel's thread protector.

O.K., thanks for the clarification.

 

[TOM BECKWITH]

I have a TandemKross brake on my S&W M&P Compact that I like. No sight problem.

 

[taylorkh]

Thanks TOM BECKWITH,

The seem to be the only ones to make a true compensator rather than a muzzle break. That is, one which diverts gas upward to counter muzzle rise.

I am a bit confused about the material and finish of their devices. The older Game Changer is aluminum. Their web site recommends Carbon Killer for cleaning but in the Q&A section warns that the product will remove the finish. The PRO is described as "steel" but is is offered with a "Stainless" finish option. If the thing is actually made of stainless steel that it probably what I will buy. I can always paint or unpaint it as I desire. I have an email in to them and will call if I do not hear back.

Ken