M&P .22 range report and review!

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So I've now been to the range three times with my new M&P .22. Figured it was time for a small review:

1.) The gun has a nice feel to it. You know what to expect if you've used a "regular" M&P. The slide is aluminum, and it sounds it. Using the slide-stop to release the slide results in a rather high-pitched, tinny sound.

NB: Be CAREFUL with the slide if you don't want to scratch it. It scratches very, VERY easily.

2.) Takedown is an absolute nightmare unless you've shot it at least once. I struggled to pull the slide-stop out, to the point where my fingers were sore from pulling and pulling. Normally I always clean a new gun up before shooting it, but this is one instance where, if you're not strong enough or able to get enough of a grip - you'll really find it a lot easier after shooting it the first time. Now that it's been shot on three separate occasions (cleaning after each), it's quite easy to remove the slide stop for a field strip and clean.

3.) The trigger is leagues better than the center-fire M&Ps. It lacks a lot of the grit and the harsh break of the M&P, even compared to my old M&P9 Pro trigger. Gotta love hammer-fire, single-action triggers!

4.) The safeties are a joke. There's just too many of them and they get in the way. The thumb safeties were removed after my first range session. They were constantly in the way of my man hands (mands?), and either riding my fingers below or on top of them, I was always frustrated because the safety would rub my hand the wrong way - even with as little recoil as a .22 LR.

The trigger safety is also frustrating. That little trigger spring is a noisy little thing (and causes inconsistencies in the trigger), and I don't like how the shape of the trigger essentially changes as you pull it. I tend to pull this type of trigger downward when I shoot, so, yes - I have a tendency with the M&P line to shoot low. This is not an issue with a solid trigger like with my CZs.

5.) The 12-round factory magazine seem to be top notch. I picked up another 5 magazines which arrived this morning, and all 5 (+1 the M&P .22 came with) shoot perfectly. 12-rounds = nicer than 10 rounds!

6.) Out of the box (after a clean), I had 99% success rate. I had a few short strokes from Federal bulk ammo. The round would go off but the slide didn't get enough pressure to blow back and strip the next round off the magazine. I chalk that up to some inconsistent Federal ammo and that the gun wasn't broken in. In that first range session, though, my CCI Blazer bulk ammo cycled 100% perfectly.

After that first range session, I've had no failures of any sort with the Federal or the CCI, and field stripping is much easier when it comes to that slide stop...

7.) The sights aren't great out of the box. The front sight is the largest travesty, being not bold enough of a dot. The rear sight is... not great, but it has elevation, which is nice! I picked up some Dawson Precision front/rear fiber optic sights, but I'm going to stick with just the front fiber optic since the rear is a little busy for my liking, and my POI is a little high with the Dawsons and there's no adjustment... So for me, it will be Dawson front sight, S&W stock rear sight.


Now, is this gun fun? OH yes it is. I burned through a TON of ammo today (over a 550-round box), and the M&P .22 is just a champion. It just goes and goes. Great fun, and because the trigger isn't perfect (though again - better than the centerfire models), it really teaches you to be careful how you pull the trigger. You can EASILY dip the muzzle down as you pull the trigger, easily pull the gun left (if you're a right-hander) or right (if you're a left-hander).

Is it the best .22 pistol out there? Well, probably not. I still think the Browning Buck Mark Camper (or equivalent) is the best. It comes with an excellent rear sight with elevation adjustment, an excellent fiber optic sight, a really excellent trigger, a safety that isn't a total joke, and you get the benefit of an easy magazine loader (The Ultimate Clip loader). The M&P .22 doesn't have a 2-second-per-magazine loading tool that you can buy, sadly.... And that Buck Mark model costs just about the same as the M&P .22.

What you do get with the M&P .22 is a little more of a traditional design and feel, and a huge amount of reliable fun. I certainly prefer the "normal" slide design, and ease of field strip. The Buck Mark requires an allen key and removal of the rear sight to field strip, which I have always, always despised.

Overall, the M&P .22 is a winner. It's a really, really fun gun. It points well, shoots well, and so far has been superbly reliable after over 1,000 rounds. Well done, S&W/Walther. Good job!
 
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Thanks for the review. I bought one about two months ago and have taken it to the shooting range 3 or 4 times. I am glad to hear the take down gets easier the more I shoot it, I also find it very hard to remove the slide stop. I haven't shot mine as much as you have, but I have had zero failures.
 
I shot mine over the weekend too. I have the rear "inset" sight as low as it will go, in fact it's lower than the rest of the rear sight, something that I don't like. The gun still shoots high. I'm going to try to find some aftermarket sights that actually have enough rear sight travel, or a shorter front sight.
The gun is flawless as far as function goes. I don't think you could have enough mags though. They empty really fast.
 
I shot mine over the weekend too. I have the rear "inset" sight as low as it will go, in fact it's lower than the rest of the rear sight, something that I don't like. The gun still shoots high. I'm going to try to find some aftermarket sights that actually have enough rear sight travel, or a shorter front sight.
The gun is flawless as far as function goes. I don't think you could have enough mags though. They empty really fast.

Interesting that it still shoots high with the rear sight all the way down... I found that putting it directly in line with the surrounding parts, the rear sight is dead on. My Dawson fiber optic sight was shooting high, consistently, tested by three people.

By the way, you need a TALLER front sight, if you want to shoot lower. :)

Rule for sights: The rear sight moves in the direction you want the POI to be (up, down, left, right).
Front sight is the opposite! So for you to lower your POI, you need a taller front sight.
 
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Thanks for the review. I bought one about two months ago and have taken it to the shooting range 3 or 4 times. I am glad to hear the take down gets easier the more I shoot it, I also find it very hard to remove the slide stop. I haven't shot mine as much as you have, but I have had zero failures.

Believe you me after you've shot it a bit more it gets SO much easier to take out that slide-stop lever. It's a total joke how hard it is to take it out before you shoot it a bit. Crazy, stupid hard. Not sure what S&W/Walther were thinking. I can imagine some people would need to take it to a gunsmith first, honestly, - it's THAT hard to remove. AND you have to be careful not to snap the slide-stop lever while yanking on it!

Anyway, after shooting it a few times, the lever comes out so easily it makes you wonder how it could ever have been so difficult!
 
I'm thinking with all the front sights floating around, maybe the wrong one made it onto my gun. At 15', It's about 1.5" high, with POA hold. All the rest of my pistols are right on. I could see it if I was using the FS dot on the bull, but that way it's even higher. It's a deal-breaker on the dueling tree!
You guys haven't begun to go through ammo until you've taken on the dueling tree from Action Targets! Talk about addictive... I use it in my handgun classes, and the kids almost always beat the parents, and the wives almost always beat the husbands. It really teaches the fine line between speed and accuracy!

As to the difficulty in removing the slide stop lever, imagine how loose it would be if it wasn't that tight to begin with! I wonder if they just didn't clean out the holes before assembling the gun.
 
I'm thinking with all the front sights floating around, maybe the wrong one made it onto my gun. At 15', It's about 1.5" high, with POA hold. All the rest of my pistols are right on. I could see it if I was using the FS dot on the bull, but that way it's even higher. It's a deal-breaker on the dueling tree!
You guys haven't begun to go through ammo until you've taken on the dueling tree from Action Targets! Talk about addictive... I use it in my handgun classes, and the kids almost always beat the parents, and the wives almost always beat the husbands. It really teaches the fine line between speed and accuracy!

As to the difficulty in removing the slide stop lever, imagine how loose it would be if it wasn't that tight to begin with! I wonder if they just didn't clean out the holes before assembling the gun.

Can you take a picture of your rear sight for me and post it here?

I think the whole gun needed to loosen up for that slide-stop to be removable easily. I cleaned and oiled it before shooting it and it was still impossible to remove after pushing it back in. :D
 
All M&P22's shoot high, even with the rear sight all the way down. If you want POA at 25 yards, which is where I like it, install a Dawson .180 FO on the front. If you want FO's front and rear, use a Dawson .160 in front and their FO in the rear. The Dawson sights come with a .040 fiber rods in them. I drilled out the front, used aluminum black to re-color it and installed a .060 fiber rod in it. Picks up much quicker now.
Also, it takes about ten minutes to clean up the hammer (with a sharp Arkansas stone), where it contacts the sear and with a tiny dab of aluminum anti-seize, will drop your trigger pull from 6lbs to about 3lbs.
 
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"By the way, you need a TALLER front sight, if you want to shoot lower. "

Yeah, I know..I can't believe I said that...NRA is going to take my instructor's certificates away!

Pictures of rear sight coming soon...
 
Yeah I would recommend either the TruGlo TFO's or the Dawson fiber optics for the M&P22. Personally I like the TFO's better. They're brighter, tougher, and just work better for me. Right now I'm trying out some Williams adjustable Firesights, but I almost mangled the front sight installing it with a pusher. It required some filing to get it to fit right. Whereas the TFO's just slid on with no issues.
I wish the M&P22 had a better barrel on it. That pellet gun barrel and shroud is a joke.



-Mike

TruGlo TFO's on Ebay


M&P22 with Williams adjustable Firesights....
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M&P22 with TruGlo TFO's ....
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M&P22 with Dawson F/O's ....
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All M&P22's shoot high, even with the rear sight all the way down. If you want POA at 25 yards, which is where I like it, install a Dawson .180 FO on the front. If you want FO's front and rear, use a Dawson .160 in front and their FO in the rear. The Dawson sights come with a .040 fiber rods in them. I drilled out the front, used aluminum black to re-color it and installed a .060 fiber rod in it. Picks up much quicker now.
Also, it takes about ten minutes to clean up the hammer (with a sharp Arkansas stone), where it contacts the sear and with a tiny dab of aluminum anti-seize, will drop your trigger pull from 6lbs to about 3lbs.

Love to see a video guide of the hammer modification. :)
 
That won't happen, as it opens me up to lawsuits, if someone does it wrong and someone gets hurt or worse.

?! Doesn't that ring true for any modification to anything that could be seen as dangerous? That's why there are disclaimers on videos/tutorials.

Well, if anyone experienced lives in/near Seattle, I'd love some help if it's available. :)
 
Chatted with my gunsmith about this. Seems... simple (as in, simple enough that I might have him do it for me, hah!).
 
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Glad you like it. I like the one I purchased but I can't get anymore ammo. 300 rounds and put it away. What I have left is for my son.

Has it been verified that the M&P22 has a trigger safety? I thought the trigger is just to make it similar to the M&P striker guns. I don't think I would want a cocked and not locked single action pistol with no safety. I guess if the trigger does have a safety then rock on!
 
Glad you like it. I like the one I purchased but I can't get anymore ammo. 300 rounds and put it away. What I have left is for my son.

Has it been verified that the M&P22 has a trigger safety? I thought the trigger is just to make it similar to the M&P striker guns. I don't think I would want a cocked and not locked single action pistol with no safety. I guess if the trigger does have a safety then rock on!

It just has the standard M&P trigger-hinge safety as far as I'm aware. Nothing wrong with cocked and not locked, especially on a range gun. (Personally wouldn't have a cocked and not locked carry pistol). Just keep your gun pointed down range and your bang-maker out of the trigger guard till you're ready to fire (gets repeated a lot, eh?).
 
Okay, let me get his straight. Someone still makes .22lr ammo?

That stuff is as rare as _______. (fill in the blank)
 
I still have a bunch from 2011-2012 when it was on sale for about $14 a box of 550. I had no idea it got so expensive/rare to buy .22 since I hadn't shot in a couple of years. :(
 
I have a gun dealer friend who said a couple of distributors told him that three ammunition manufacturers are adding more 22 rimfire production lines to keep up with the demand.
 
I have a gun dealer friend who said a couple of distributors told him that three ammunition manufacturers are adding more 22 rimfire production lines to keep up with the demand.

Yeah I heard CCI is switching to just .22 production for a good while. We'll see what happens..
 
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