M&P 3.6" vs 4" compact

[Beju]

I am curious if anyone has tried the new Holosun HE507COMP-GR ?

Not on an M&P, but yes.

Optical quality is on par with the EPS Carry that I have. It doesn't have as much magnification/distortion effect as the 407/505/509 optics that I have. If it bothered you on those, you'll like the Comp better. If it didn't bother you, you'll just notice it when presented side-by-side.

Dot/circle size is largely a personal preference thing. The 8 MOA circle/dot works a lot like the big dot competition optics that some competitors prefer these days.

I would lean towards one of the smaller Holosuns for a carry/duty optic, like the 507C for concealed carry (I quite like the ACSS versions), or a 509T/508T/EPS for duty use. The Comp may not be as durable, but it's probably fine for a home defense gun.

 

[Anton Chigurh]

The 3.6 is simply easier to carry, especially appendix.

 

[cd228]

I was going to put the weight difference betweent the two models up here, but when I went to the S&W LE website it had the 4.0" compact model 11677 at 7.25 inches overall 23.99oz and the 11681 3.6 inch at 6.8 inches overall and 25.9ozs! I don't understand how the shorter pistol is heavier, it might be a typo or a reading comprehension failure on my part. Both are thumb safety versions. But, I suspect that the weight and length difference between the two pistols translates into a different balance or feel in the hand.

I cannot speak directly to the S&Ws, because I'm still on GEN 1 . However, on SIG P320s I own both the 3.6 and 4.0 inch slides and find that the 3.6 feels better in the hand (a little more balanced towards the grip). I can't quantify a performance difference though. On SIG's web site, they have the 3.9 inch version as 7.25 inches overall at 26.6 oz and the 3.6 at 7 inches and 25.3 oz. That is comparing a 3.6 with a XCOMPACT grip module and the 4.0 with a Compact grip module. So it' not a completely perfect comparison.

Also, website weights and real weights aren't always the same.

 

[Dave Lively]

I was going to put the weight difference betweent the two models up here, but when I went to the S&W LE website it had the 4.0" compact model 11677 at 7.25 inches overall 23.99oz and the 11681 3.6 inch at 6.8 inches overall and 25.9ozs! I don't understand how the shorter pistol is heavier . . .

My 4" 2.0 Compact weighs 23.95 ounces according to my scale, very close to the 23.99 listed weight. It does not have a manual safety.

But that is WITHOUT an empty magazine in the gun.

S&W lists the weight of my OR Shield Plus at 19.3 ounces. Mine weighs 19.2 WITH a 10 round magazine.

Sometimes S&W includes the weight of the magazine, sometimes they do not.

My guess is whoever weighed the 4 inch model did so without the magazine and some other guy weighed the newer 3.6 inch version with a magazine. An empty 15 round magazine weighs 2.8 ounces.

 

[cd228]

My 4" 2.0 Compact weighs 23.95 ounces according to my scale, very close to the 23.99 listed weight. It does not have a manual safety.

But that is WITHOUT an empty magazine in the gun.

S&W lists the weight of my OR Shield Plus at 19.3 ounces. Mine weighs 19.2 WITH a 10 round magazine.

Sometimes S&W includes the weight of the magazine, sometimes they do not.

My guess is whoever weighed the 4 inch model did so without the magazine and some other guy weighed the newer 3.6 inch version with a magazine. An empty 15 round magazine weighs 2.8 ounces.

Thanks, I'm pretty sure you are correct. I should have figured that out myself.

 

[BBMW]

Have you tried carrying the 3.6? It is bigger than the Shield+ but not by much. If you shoot it better, it might be worth it.

I have the full size, the compact, the compact 3.6, and the subcompact. I gotta admit the 3.6 is my favorite. Wouldn't use it as a duty gun and I don't even carry it since I have a Shield Plus, but the 3.6 feels better in my hand then the regular compact.

 

[darkpenguin_ak]

I prefer the 3.6". Seems like it balances better for me. Actually for carry I prefer the subcompact even more (it's also 3.6" with a 12rd flush fit) with a 15rd as backup. Between that and a full size 4.25" you're well served for any role, imho.

 

[dirty & hairy]

I went with the 4" model.

3.6 or 4, it's a great gun.

 

[32Mike]

I love my 3.6 w/o safety.