M&P 40c

[steven0150]

Hi guys im new, and own an M&P 40c and a S&W 625-2 revolver. Love them both. I got the 40 buy trading my remington 597 and 300 cash. I took it out this weekend to shoot, and the accuracy is way off. I was shooting at the bass pro 4 targets on 1 paper targets. I would aim at the top left target and i would hit the bottom, and then i would aim at the same target and i would hit the top right target. and its all over the paper, and sometimes i would hit the target I was aiming at.

I am wondering if I am aining wrong, Is it the gun. any help

I was shooting Winchester .40 S&W 165 grain bulk. thanks guys

 

[Jyezahn]

In all honesty, it's you. If it was the gun, then the shot placement would still be consistent. Trigger pull, grip, flinching, finger movement, all play a part in proper shot placement.

 

[Rastoff]

Chances are it's you. Fortunately, there is a method to determine if the gun is OK; bench rest shooting position.

Look at this pic:

Seated at a table, feet flat on the ground, wrists supported by the bag/towel/rest, shoot a three shot group using a slow, perfect trigger press, making sure to press the trigger straight back and getting a surprise break.

Before you do that though, how's your grip? Does it look like this:

If not, some corrections need to be made.

• Form a Y with your thumb and first finger.
  
• Place the back strap in that Y with the web as high on the grip as it can go.
  
• Ensure the bore is in line with your forearm.
  
• Place your support hand with fingers on fingers.
  
• Thumbs RELAXED! They are not part of the support equation.
  
• Build isometric tension by pushing forward with your shooting hand and pulling back with your support hand. Not so much that you're shaking. Just enough to help keep the gun steady.
  
• Only the pad of your finger on the trigger. Half way between the tip and the first knuckle.

When you press the trigger, be smooth. Take up the slack, then press with smooth, even pressure. The shot should be a surprise.

 

[Jyezahn]

[*]Build isometric tension by pushing forward with your support hand and pulling back with your shooting hand. Not so much that you're shaking. Just enough to help keep the gun steady.

Isn't it the other way around? I've never heard to pull back with your gun hand while pushing with your support hand. Usually it's push with your gun hand, pull with your support. Doesn't seem that it's very stable to be trying to separate your hands.

 

[MSG Glenn]

I was taught the same way Jyezahn described.

 

[scattershot]

The best way to check would be to have an experienced shooter shoot it. Some of the M&P series have a very stiff trigger, and that could cause some difficulty, too.

You'll get it worked out, just be patient.

Good luck, and good shooting.

 

[Rastoff]

Isn't it the other way around? I've never heard to pull back with your gun hand while pushing with your support hand. Usually it's push with your gun hand, pull with your support. Doesn't seem that it's very stable to be trying to separate your hands.

DOH!!! Yes, I got it backward. I've fixed it in my post.

 

[gun1]

Something else you may want to consider is the different back straps. I switched to the larger one and found it helps to stabilize the front sight. Practice dry firing. Apparently it is OK for these M&P pistols. Pay attention to the front sight and try different grips and finger positions on the trigger. Try swapping the back straps. Just keep practicing and get the front sight stabilized. I am working on that myself.

 

[steven0150]

thanks, the only reason i thought it was the gun is when i was cleaning it i thought i saw some scoring at the end of the barrel. But more i thought about it it is me. i had some shots on target and some no. thanks guys, im going to try and get out this weekend and shoot.​

 

[gun1]

Try dialing in your group at short range. Then work out. If you are shooting at 30ft out and having a hard time putting the holes on paper move up to 15ft. Once you get your group size down then add distance.

You will get the black worn off the barrel in a few places - the larger diameter section near the muzzle and the top angle portion of the chamber (the part that pops down under the slide). You shouldn't have any grooves ground in any of the parts, just lighter color developing after several hundred rounds.