M&P 9 2.0 Compact with the new flat trigger shoe.

[Tiribulus]

Put it in a couple days ago. Feels good, but haven't had it out yet.

 

[tonysilver]

Hello

Thank you for sharing so,. Just so I'm clear. You were able to fit the new flat stick trigger on the 2.0 with the original hinge trigger?

Thank you,

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[The Mighty S&W]

Let us all know how it shoots, and if you had any difficulties with the installation of the new trigger. Personally, I'm not entirely sold on the whole "flat" trigger idea. I've got one installed in my 380 Shield EZ (a Galloway Precision), but I'm not particularly fond of it. Yes, it works as advertised by allowing a consistent pull regardless of finger placement, but I've never really struggled with the triggers on any of my pistols once I'm used to them, and I don't particularly care for the aesthetics of the flat triggers. I also really like the trigger on my M2.0 Compact. I am interested to hear how this one performs though.

 

[Saudade]

Where did you get it?

 

[LVSteve]

Let us all know how it shoots, and if you had any difficulties with the installation of the new trigger. Personally, I'm not entirely sold on the whole "flat" trigger idea. I've got one installed in my 380 Shield EZ (a Galloway Precision), but I'm not particularly fond of it. Yes, it works as advertised by allowing a consistent pull regardless of finger placement, but I've never really struggled with the triggers on any of my pistols once I'm used to them, and I don't particularly care for the aesthetics of the flat triggers. I also really like the trigger on my M2.0 Compact. I am interested to hear how this one performs though.

Flat triggers showed me how many issues I was having with the curved triggers on certain pistols. I would agree that they look a bit industrial, but I cannot see them from behind the gun, and the paper I'm killing doesn't seem to know the difference.

 

[Tiribulus]

Hello

Thank you for sharing so,. Just so I'm clear. You were able to fit the new flat stick trigger on the 2.0 with the original hinge trigger?

Thank you,

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Yes. This is a 3.6 in. 2.0 compact that came with the hinged trigger and I put the flat bow trigger in it. It will work in the non Shield 9 and 40 caliber 2.0 pistols, but not the 45s and not the 1.0 M&Ps.


I got it from Ebay seller FREESTONE ARMORY


He was only able to get three guns with this trigger this time. He buys handguns directly from Smith and Wesson and sells them as parts. Free enterprise Great store. I've bought from him 8 or 10 times. Super knowledgeable and helpful too. He's a certified dealer and I think he said certified S&W gunsmith if I remember right. In any case he is able to buy directly from them and he KNOWS what he is talkin about. Very impressive expertise.

 

[Tiribulus]

Let us all know how it shoots, and if you had any difficulties with the installation of the new trigger. Personally, I'm not entirely sold on the whole "flat" trigger idea. I've got one installed in my 380 Shield EZ (a Galloway Precision), but I'm not particularly fond of it. Yes, it works as advertised by allowing a consistent pull regardless of finger placement, but I've never really struggled with the triggers on any of my pistols once I'm used to them, and I don't particularly care for the aesthetics of the flat triggers. I also really like the trigger on my M2.0 Compact. I am interested to hear how this one performs though.

Truth be told, I didn't even mind the hinged trigger lol. I have maybe 3500 rounds through this one and the 45 full size and I shot them both fine.



I got the email from S&W for the 10mm and saw the new trigger. I immediately messaged freestone and he said that he would be getting some pistols that had it and that they should work in the 2.0s, but he didn't know how many, but he would hold one for me and let me know when he had them. He did. I send a lot of people over there so I guess he saw it as returning a favor.



Installation was identical to the hinged trigger if you've ever had an M&P apart. As long as you have a slave pin (I made one out of a piece of 1/8 in. metal rod I got from Home Depot) installation is pretty straight forward. If you don't have a slave pin I don't think it can be done. There's no way to get all the parts to stay lined up in the hole in the block.

 

[Tiribulus]

HERE are a couple shots of the assembly. The second is comparing a spare hinged one, which I also got from Freestone, to the new flat one before I put it in. The bars are identical.

 

[Tiribulus]

I got 50 rounds through it yesterday at the range. An outdoor range where you can move around, draw from a holster etc.



Here's the thing. This is a good trigger and I like it better than the hinge. However, as somebody who doesn't hate the hinged triggers, I might not be the best guy to ask.

It feels better, a bit more positive on the finger and Ill get one for the 45 if they become available. After a few rounds I didn't even notice the dingus thingy when doing drills. To me anyway, it was like it wasn't even there.

That said, I wouldn't have been crippled with the hinged trigger. I rarely shoot these pistols beyond maybe 12 or 15 yards so bullseye marksmanship doesn't figure all that much into my thinking.

For somebody who likes the 2.0 trigger overall, but just tolerates the hinged shoe, this would be a huge improvement.

The fact that it's a factory S&W part and doesn't change the break weight would also be good in court. At least in jurisdictions (like mine) with firearms experts for the prosecution who may go through the trouble of figuring out that the trigger weight in a SD case is significantly different than it came from the factory.

 

[marathonrunner]

Let us all know how it shoots, and if you had any difficulties with the installation of the new trigger. Personally, I'm not entirely sold on the whole "flat" trigger idea. I've got one installed in my 380 Shield EZ (a Galloway Precision), but I'm not particularly fond of it. Yes, it works as advertised by allowing a consistent pull regardless of finger placement, but I've never really struggled with the triggers on any of my pistols once I'm used to them, and I don't particularly care for the aesthetics of the flat triggers. I also really like the trigger on my M2.0 Compact. I am interested to hear how this one performs though.

If you have a red dot on a gun that has a flat trigger and the other m&P with the hinged curved trigger you will definitely see a difference because the hinge trigger you'll see your Red Dot jump a little bit to the left a millimeter with every shot unless you're perfect and the flat face you'll see the Red Dot less likely to move to left if you're a right-handed shooter definitely a difference but I shoot well with both configurations

 

[LethalWeapon]

I got it from Ebay seller FREESTONE ARMORY

I have seen him on Ebay. He has lots of hard-to-find parts for M&P's, but lately his prices are a little too expensive for my blood. I was looking at a manual safety kit not too long ago, and he was asking almost $100 for that (this kit is worth $20 at best when it's in stock). I don't blame anyone for wanting to make money, but this is a little ridiculous.

 

[Tiribulus]

Looks like this is going to be the trigger going forward. Improved serrations too.

M&P®9 M2.0™ FULL SIZE 4.25" O.R.
17+1 capacity with flat-faced trigger, front slide serrations, and optics ready slide. Comes with or without slide safety.​

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M&P®9 M2.0™ COMPACT 4" O.R.
15+1 capacity with flat-faced trigger, front slide serrations, and optics ready slide. Comes with or without slide safety.​

​

 

[mscampbell2734]

If you have a red dot on a gun that has a flat trigger and the other m&P with the hinged curved trigger you will definitely see a difference because the hinge trigger you'll see your Red Dot jump a little bit to the left a millimeter with every shot unless you're perfect and the flat face you'll see the Red Dot less likely to move to left if you're a right-handed shooter definitely a difference but I shoot well with both configurations

I find this to be a huge issue with my 2.0 Pro CORE. A perfect press is a perfect press. Anything else and I definitely see the dot jump to the left when dry firing.

I will have to try this new trigger when I can find one at close to factory prices.

 

[TPD252]

The thing I dislike the most about the hinged 2.0 triggers is where it breaks. It breaks far too late in comparison to other guns I carry and shoot well. Does this new trigger break sooner than the standard 2.0? I've watched a couple vids on the new trigger, but it's hard to tell.

 

[Tiribulus]

The thing I dislike the most about the hinged 2.0 triggers is where it breaks. It breaks far too late in comparison to other guns I carry and shoot well. Does this new trigger break sooner than the standard 2.0? I've watched a couple vids on the new trigger, but it's hard to tell.

https://i.imgur.com/1CpTx2n.mp4


This is only with the new shoe though. Same internals as the 2.0

 

[Ruger Nut]

Yes. This is a 3.6 in. 2.0 compact that came with the hinged trigger and I put the flat bow trigger in it. It will work in the non Shield 9 and 40 caliber 2.0 pistols, but not the 45s and not the 1.0 M&Ps.


I got it from Ebay seller FREESTONE ARMORY


He was only able to get three guns with this trigger this time. He buys handguns directly from Smith and Wesson and sells them as parts. Free enterprise Great store. I've bought from him 8 or 10 times. Super knowledgeable and helpful too. He's a certified dealer and I think he said certified S&W gunsmith if I remember right. In any case he is able to buy directly from them and he KNOWS what he is talkin about. Very impressive expertise.

I have bought S&W parts from him in the past. He's fair and very knowledgeable.

 

[Ruger Nut]

Put it in a couple days ago. Feels good, but haven't had it out yet.

I bought a 2.0 SHB along with a 2.0 trigger bar with trigger from FREESTONE ARMORY to install into one of my FS 1.0 M&P's.
So, I can now buy a new S&W flat trigger to replace my hinge trigger with?

 

[Tiribulus]

I bought a 2.0 SHB along with a 2.0 trigger bar with trigger from FREESTONE ARMORY to install into one of my FS 1.0 M&P's.
So, I can now buy a new S&W flat trigger to replace my hinge trigger with?

If the 2.0 trigger works then the flat shoe/bar assembly will work too.

So if you have the 2.0 SHB and 2.0 shoe/bar assembly in there now, then the new one should work too.

I know that the 2.0 bar assembly won't work in the 1.0 pistols, but if you changed out to the 2.0 SHB and the 2.0 shoe/bar is working then you would be good.

I think I said that 3 times lol


EDIT: Oh wait, you're saying full size 9mm right? I think it will work in the non Shield 9s, but not the 45s.

Ya know what? You might be best off asking him. He'll answer you and he'll know for sure.

 

[Tiribulus]

I have bought S&W parts from him in the past. He's fair and very knowledgeable.

Quite so. I've bought tons of parts from him too. However, what the other fella says is also true. His prices have gone up by a chunk in recent months.



That's not a blast, but it's hard to fault somebody for charging what people will pay on the other hand.

 

[Tiribulus]

@Ruger Nut

His description:
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Please verify the product you are purchasing is for the correct M&P.



(1) Brand New Factory Smith & Wesson M&P Trigger Assembly (includes return spring)

UPDATED Optics Ready Trigger - No longer a hinged trigger

FITS M&P M2.0 9mm / 40S&W ONLY

FITS Full Size / Compact / SubCompact models

DOES NOT fit Shield or 45 handguns

Trigger bar is 2.0 specific, will not fit a 1.0. Trigger Shoe fits both 1.0 & M2.0

 

[Ruger Nut]

@Ruger Nut

His description:
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Please verify the product you are purchasing is for the correct M&P.



(1) Brand New Factory Smith & Wesson M&P Trigger Assembly (includes return spring)

UPDATED Optics Ready Trigger - No longer a hinged trigger

FITS M&P M2.0 9mm / 40S&W ONLY

FITS Full Size / Compact / SubCompact models

DOES NOT fit Shield or 45 handguns

Trigger bar is 2.0 specific, will not fit a 1.0. Trigger Shoe fits both 1.0 & M2.0

I have (5) LE trade in FS 1.0 M&P 40's. I want to add the new S&W flat trigger to one of my Hybrid M&P's (1.0 frame with a 2.0 SHB and 2.0 trigger bar and trigger).

 

[Tiribulus]

I have (5) LE trade in FS 1.0 M&P 40's. I want to add the new S&W flat trigger to one of my Hybrid M&P's (1.0 frame with a 2.0 SHB and 2.0 trigger bar and trigger).

You haven't tried the 2.0 SHB in the 1.0 frame with the 2.0 trigger bar yet?


Or you do already have the 2.0 SHB and the 2.0 trigger assembly in a 1.0 frame? If so, then the new one will work too. As long as it's 9 or 40 and not a Shield.

 

[Ruger Nut]

You haven't tried the 2.0 SHB in the 1.0 frame with the 2.0 trigger bar yet?


Or you do already have the 2.0 SHB and the 2.0 trigger assembly in a 1.0 frame? If so, then the new one will work too. As long as it's 9 or 40 and not a Shield.

Yes, I have a 2.0 SHB and 2.0 trigger assembly in one of my FS 1.0 M&P 40's.
Where can I buy just the trigger?

 

[Tiribulus]

Yes, I have a 2.0 SHB and 2.0 trigger assembly in one of my FS 1.0 M&P 40's.
Where can I buy just the trigger?

As far as I know, as of right now the only place I've seen them is at Freestone's Ebay store. He only had 3 and they're sold. The only reason I got one is because I hit him up in November as soon as I got the email from Smith and Wesson announcing the 10mm with the new trigger.



I'm not sure how to get just the trigger shoe and bar assembly at the moment. If you drop him a message at his store I'm sure he can fill you in on future availability, which I have to think is coming.

 

[TPD252]

https://i.imgur.com/1CpTx2n.mp4


This is only with the new shoe though. Same internals as the 2.0

Thanks for the vid! Looks like it breaks a little sooner.

 

[Tiribulus]

Thanks for the vid! Looks like it breaks a little sooner.

You bet
Actually, I made that video for a guy in the S&W group on Reddit so we could compare resets with his 10mm. So that vid was focused on the reset more than the take up, wall and break.



I'm quite happy with the performance of this pistol myself.

 

[TPD252]

You bet
Actually, I made that video for a guy in the S&W group on Reddit so we could compare resets with his 10mm. So that vid was focused on the reset more than the take up, wall and break.



I'm quite happy with the performance of this pistol myself.

I jumped on the 4" 2.0 OR compact when it came out, but that was before the new trigger made its debut. I'm a big fan of the Apex flat face, forward set triggers, with the only caveat being I wish it had a more positive reset. My question would be just go Apex again, or with the new Smith trigger, assuming I could obtain the parts.

 

[Tiribulus]

I jumped on the 4" 2.0 OR compact when it came out, but that was before the new trigger made its debut. I'm a big fan of the Apex flat face, forward set triggers, with the only caveat being I wish it had a more positive reset. My question would be just go Apex again, or with the new Smith trigger, assuming I could obtain the parts.

My compact has the same break and close to the reset as it did before. The bar and the rest of the internal parts are the same. The only difference is the shoe.


So if you like the way your trigger is now except for the hinged shoe then this would be for you. If you want to significantly change the take up, break or reset, more work and or parts will be necessary.


I reworked my striker block and thoroughly polished all the relevant contact parts in mine too. I haven't changed the sear because I'm happy with the way it is now.

I might prefer a bit less take up, but for me personally it isn't worth what it would cost and take to achieve that. It's good like it is.

 

[hardluk1]

Tried straight triggers from a couple company's and m&p new trigger and the new m&p trigger is nothing special for me ether so there not on my want list. We have 4 m&ps and 3 run apex curved trigger and kits . I find they have a tactical reset but reality is on the range I wear muffs and some times plugs too so Hearing a reset is a fools game and if you need your pistol to defend your self with I doubt you even feel the recoil much less the trigger pull and may not even hear it when shooting under stress . Many hunters also don't HEAR the bang when pulling a trigger at the time .

Some guys Follow the Reset when shooting . Better off with a short crisp SA trigger . OR you sweep the trigger , not slapping the trigger and useing this style of trigger pull that as still taught at top level training centers and by pro match shooters . you sweeping thru the trigger getting off it as sights start to settled but on a target area and you pull thru the trigger again. THis is used by shotgunners for skeet , trap or shotgun bird hunters for pulling the trigger. Feeling or hearing a reset matters little . Our m&ps have thumb safetys , factory or aftermarket m&p parts and trigger pulls are all adjusted into the mid 3lb range except a stock early M&P9c that has a apex striker block and some stoneing / polising done to the conncector . That ones trigger is nice at 4lb 2oz and was my wifes first striker fired 9mm and first double stack . We both carry tuned 1911's so these m&ps feel rather close to the same for trigger pull and we use the thumb safetys .

 

[TPD252]

My compact has the same break and close to the reset as it did before. The bar and the rest of the internal parts are the same. The only difference is the shoe.


So if you like the way your trigger is now except for the hinged shoe then this would be for you. If you want to significantly change the take up, break or reset, more work and or parts will be necessary.


I reworked my striker block and thoroughly polished all the relevant contact parts in mine too. I haven't changed the sear because I'm happy with the way it is now.

I might prefer a bit less take up, but for me personally it isn't worth what it would cost and take to achieve that. It's good like it is.

Good deal, thanks for the feedback.