yanici
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I recall reading in earlier posts that there was an accuracy problem with the full sized M&P pistols in 9MM. Does anyone know if this claim is true or if the problem was corrected in newer manufactured guns? Thanks.
M&P 9MM FS, accuracy question
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Rastoff
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Yes, the problem was real on very early guns. It was fixed a few years ago.
Rastoff,
Was the fix in 2012? My new Pro is a Dec. 2011 model. I don't know about its accuracy as I get to pick it up today.
Rastoff
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No, I think it was before that, but don't quote me on that. As with all things, the accuracy issue was only a hand full of guns. S&W updated the twist rate on the barrel and it has not been mentioned since. Shoot the gun from a rest. If you have random patterns call S&W. I'm sure they'd fix it even if you're not the first owner.
Interest in the topic does seem to have died off a bit, so maybe that does indicate the newer guns are performing better. I have one from 2013 and I can assure you it is nothing to brag about. As one of our forum members said of the 39s, it is basically a "minute of pie plate" gun. On the other hand, if I shoot it side by side with an XDM, there is not much difference. I do believe my old (very old) G17 will outshoot both of them. If your favorite 9mm plastic pistol consistently shoots into 3-inches at 25-yards, I'd say consider yourself pretty lucky.
agksimon
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My 9c was made in 2010 and will sandbag into three inch groups (or less)at 25 yards with Winchester white box.
uechikid
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WOW! You guys are way better than I am. If I can get 95% of my shots in an 8 inch circle at 15 yard I'm feeling pretty good, and I know it's not the gun.
BobsSmith
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I just picked mine up about a month ago. Born date of 9-13. Very accurate as long as I do my part!
I love mine!
I love mine!
Maddmax
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Mine are older yet and ALL tack drivers right out of the box.
Even with the older M&Ps, the accuracy issues can be solved by firing heavy for caliber 147 grain 9mm (assuming we are relating the accuracy issues to twist rate). This of course has been corrected by S&W, and all of the newer models can stabilized any of your standard 9mm bullets (115-147).
I'm not sure which polymer pistol has higher mechanical/inherent accuracy, but I do know that I am more accurate with the M&P when compared to a GLOCK. This does not mean the m&p is more accurate though.
Remember, almost all pistols can outshoot their owners. Accuracy will come down to your abilities more than the pistol's..
I'm not sure which polymer pistol has higher mechanical/inherent accuracy, but I do know that I am more accurate with the M&P when compared to a GLOCK. This does not mean the m&p is more accurate though.
Remember, almost all pistols can outshoot their owners. Accuracy will come down to your abilities more than the pistol's..
agksimon
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Wouldn't it be the other way around? The heavier bullets need a faster twist rate, such as with an AR?
Yes! You are right. Take what I said, and reverse it!
Faster twist is needed to stabilize heavier, longer bullets
Slower twist rate will do fine with lighter bullets, but may not get a heavy bullet true before it leaves the barrel.
Maddmax
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I have always stuck with the same 115 grain in all my 9's and have zero problems. No worries about what I'm shooting out my Shield or 9 PRO,9c,FS 9 or 9L. No mix-ups loading different grains/hotter loads in different barrels.
walkin' trails
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Mine is a tack driver at 7 yards, but seems to spread out a bit at greater distances. It was purchased new in 2013, and was sent back for accuracy once. It came with a "one dimple" barrel, and was returned with a "one dimple" barrel. I now have to evaluate if it's me or the gun. Most of what I've fired was Winchester Ranger 124 FMJ and. I don't know tight that bullet is supposes to be at 25. I think my main gripe overall is that I first had a 45 Fs, and the small grip insert fit my hand just fine. I've run the 9 with the medium and large, and neither give me the same grip as the 45. A backstrap insert that would mimick the 1911 would be appreciated.
John in SE Indiana
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My M&P9FS is a 2008 model - 7-10 yards it's a tack driver. I don't practice with it beyond that. It's within reach at night with a CTC grip and a TLR-3 light. 2 full magazines, all inside 8" - no problem, a couple of times a month.
I've had 6 M&Ps, and 3 Glocks. With the right load, all, except one, 5" Pro would/will do 2" groups at 25 yards. Some will only shoot well with a particular load, some others aren't as fussy.
A friend of mine had a Glock 17 that he claimed would do an inch at 25 yards, but he sold or traded it before I ever got a chance to try it.
A friend of mine had a Glock 17 that he claimed would do an inch at 25 yards, but he sold or traded it before I ever got a chance to try it.
...A friend of mine had a Glock 17 that he claimed would do an inch at 25 yards, but he sold or traded it before I ever got a chance to try it.
is right! I am no admirer of Glocks but if I had one that consistently shot into an inch at 25-yards I darned-for-sure don't think I would be selling it.
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Recently got a early 2011 9mm Full size and it was not a very good shooter, contacted S&W and they had me send it in, their notes said "poor accuracy" and replaced the barrel for the , what i have heard a newer version with 1 dimple on the bottom. havent shot it yet as i just got it back
wittmeba
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There is a difference between accuracy and consistency. To me any gun's accuracy can be fixed by sights, training of how to use sights, scopes, etc. You learn how to use "your" gun. My M&P .40 full size is right on for me. My son claims it shoots low and left. But it is consistent for both of us so that is a training issue.
Consistency is a different story. There may be quirks that make a gun inconsistent that may take some work by a Gunsmith to correct - if it can be corrected.
As suggested above ammo can affect consistency as well which will also affect accuracy.
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