M&P compact users who use CT laser grips?

[southchatham]

I got my ct laser grips in the mail today. I've been playing around with them at the house.
It is a little different than just using sights. The sights block the laser (my view when focused on front sight), so to use the laser I have to drop my gun a little and not use sights at all. I guess I need to learn to trust the laser and not use the sights, kind of like a pilot trusting auto pilot. I'm just curious how you guys that use ct grips do this.

The grips feel a little different, but not bad, probably just a little getting used to. I've had the gun for 9 months so I'm used to the regular grips. I also need to lower my index finger on the gun when drawing to presentation in order not to block the laser. Probably just retraining some muscle memory. I like that I can hold the gun and the laser does not activate until I give it more pressure, so you can be tactical without activating the laser until you want to.

Any advise from you CT laser grips guys? Thanks

 

[310nightguard]

The sights should always be your focus if you can see them... if for some reason you can not.. ie knocked down or shooting out of position.. then the dot can be your focus point. As far as the finger blocking the laser, you just have to get used to keeping the finger out of the way.

 

[MotorCityGun]

You can go to the CTC website and order a (free) dvd and or watch the video posted on the site as it relates to tactical use(s), etc.

I don't agree with 310nightguard's statement, "The sights should always (italics added) be your focus if you can see them", as it relates to the use of the CT grips for [quick(er)] target acquisition. IMHO, the primary purpose of the laser is to acquire and fix onto wherever/whatever your target is with both eyes open without the need for iron sights.

It does take some practice and getting used to, but not as much as one would think. One or two trips to the range should do it, plus you can practice at home (unloaded, of course). Around 10% of my range time is with the CT grips "on", 90% iron sights/CT "off". I've got mine zeroed in at 15 yds. What also takes some getting used to (initially) is the amount of unsteadiness that will be reflected in the laser beam. This too, with a fair amount of practice should diminish by emphasizing (a firm grip yet shoulder) relaxation and breath control. When I'm CCW, the grips are always "on", however, I rarely depress the "light on" button in order to preserve battery life.

Make sure you keep a spare set of batteries on hand. When the batteries die, they're dead and the laser will not activate, period. CTC provides a pair for free every year for life, but you have to call to get them.

 

[Kanewpadle]

The laser should be inline with the bore. Not the sights.

They are intended to be used when you don't have the time or space to use the sights.

Remember, they are a secondary sight.

 

[MotorCityGun]

The laser should be inline with the bore. Not the sights.

They are intended to be used when you don't have the time or space to use the sights.

Remember, they are a secondary sight.

I beg to disagree with your "Remember, they are a secondary sight" statement. In fact, they will be the PRIMARY "sights", if you will, in the moment's notice when you will need them. In other words, if the CTC grips are powered "on" and I need to "draw and point" at a BG, I am NOT going to be using my iron sights for primary target acquistion. That would defeat the primary purpose/function of the laser. I think where folks get mixed up is in the nomenclature of "laser sights". In fact, they are NOT "sights" in the traditional sense of the word/description. It's a laser beam that is adjusted and fixed to illuminate (on the target) where the bullet will (hopefully) hit. In theory or practicality, they're meant to eliminate the need and time to "aim" the weapon using (iron) sights.

 

[Fire&iron17]

Actually the laser is angled from the right to the left slightly. this is of course because the laser is mounted behind the barrel and has to travel across the barrel to line and be in sight. now this right to left movement is rather insignificant realistically If you would like to "sight" the laser in at a specific point at a specific distance, do it. You can tailor the laser to be just above the front sight at... say 30 feet or 20 feet, you will then see the laser, but from the factory i did also notice that you cannot see the laser at up to about 20 feet.

Think about it this way. how far away would an intruder be when you engage them? My .02

 

[Roadranger]

The LaserGrip is a "aiming device", primary or secondary is up to the user. In low light, the sight on a J-frame goes away and is useless. The laser really "shines", no pune intended, in low light engagements. I sell them in my CC class and have put most of them on J frame S&W's, not to mention Ruger Blackhawks, 1911's, and just about everything else. When I install them, I set the dot to the iron sights, usually around 20 feet or so. Of course, one can zero them at any distance, but 5 to 7 yards makes sense to me. Forget about the iron sights if you are engaging the laser. Simply put the dot on target and fire the handgun. BG's don't have scoring rings. Bob!

 

[Munsterf18]

I have them on my M&Pc. I had the same problem at first. I sighted them right on top of my iron sights. I then resighted them in at a further distance (the dot covers a bigger area) and practiced. It all came together better then.
It is a much faster acquisition with the laser, then if I can use the sights I will. The biggest benefit is trigger control. Shoot with them off, then on. Huge difference for me on that long striker fired trigger.

And yes, occasionally I covered up the laser.

Good luck,
Munster

 

[kd4gij]

Sight's are for aimming, Laser's are for pointing. With laser's you don't need to take the time to aim, just point and shoot. It's much faster.