M&P Issues

[army_eod]

I just put the M&P Pro up for sale.

I will do the same to my other one soon.

My Berettas never gave me any reason to doubt their reliability. I used them in Combat Zones.

 

[BrianE]

I picked up the M&P9 not too long ago, and right at of the box I noticed some sloppy play in the slide. Realized the sear block pin was missing. Brought it down to the security quarters dropped it off and 2 days later had it back. Since then Ive put 750 rounds through it and havent had one failure.

I have a friend that works there and he said, its bound to happen (because I was irritated). Theyre pushing these guns out rather fast at a large demand and like any business (ie: car production) you always will have problems or lemons. You have to have patience and if you do have problems, you have to bring it to their attention, because all the problems get noted and taken care of, whether its a fitters issue, design flaw or machining problem.

 

[growr]

I have an M&P with almost 10,000 rounds through it and just as many dry fire cycles and have yet to have ANY problem. I use it in IDPA and USPSA matches. It jet gets better and better.
Sorry to hear that you've had problems with yours. S&W Customer service is the BEST in the industry, the only other company that is close is Dillon.
Randy

 

[JoeS]

If one has lost confidence in a pistol they should simply sell it and get something they do have confidence in.
I've seen pistols of just about every make fail in one way or another. If it was made by man it can fail.
To this point I have had zero problem with the 3 M&Ps I own (not many rounds either). I like Berettas but I've had a trigger return spring break on my 92f within the first 500 rounds. On Browning High Powers I've seen barrel unlocking cams break, firing pin stop plates break, failures of slide stops and extractors, yet I would have no problem trusting my life to one. I've had similar experiences with 1911s.
You have to keep things in perspective.

 

[shawn mccarver]

Originally posted by army_eod:
I just put the M&P Pro up for sale.

I will do the same to my other one soon.

My Berettas never gave me any reason to doubt their reliability. I used them in Combat Zones.

All guns have issues. Berettas have a very nasty habit of having locking blocks break without warning and there is no quick fix. It has to go to an armorer. A broken firing pin can be user replaced on the M&P. S&Ws do not break locking blocks or have slides fly off in the shooter's face. I got rid of my Beretta.

 

[woodysan]

My M&P9c has worked flawlessly for about 500 rds. I wouldn't sell it for anything. Woody

 

[johns961]

I love my two M&P's. I was out shooting them today. They operate perfectly. My only complaint is magazine availability. They can't make them fast enough to keep up with demand !

John!

 

[army_eod]

for the record.

One M&P Pro sold.
One M&P still owned and working well
One M9A1 working well and will use for IPSC

Thanks for the info on the M&P.

 

[gglass]

Mr gglass. So glad you are a major advocate of SWHC. I would hope that you are such a strong supporter of the company that you own their stock as I do?

If this is so, you may be aware of SWHC management's misstatement of earnings a while back which caused the stock price to plunge and a major class action law suit has been brought.

I did get caught in this stock decline, but I still own the stock.

Perhaps if you do not actually own a stake of your vaunted SWHC, you might pick up some shares while it is cheap.

BTW, it was one of the major gainers today in the market.

Dave,

It seems that you have strayed a bit off topic once more. I'm sorry that we got this thread going again while you were obviously on a weekend bender. When you have sobered up a bit, I would be glad to begin again.

 

[LanceOregon]

Originally posted by army_eod:

If this is so, you may be aware of SWHC management's misstatement of earnings a while back which caused the stock price to plunge and a major class action law suit has been brought.

I did get caught in this stock decline, but I still own the stock.

Ah, so now we finally know the real story about you: That you are apparently a disgruntled stock holder, upset over the stock's recent decline. Most people know that such shareholder lawsuits are often extremely frivolous in nature, and many times go absolutely no where. It is a part of business these days, partially due to the fact that the United States has the highest per capita number of lawyers in the entire world.

Do you not realize how much you are coming across here as a crybaby? Waah, Waah, Waah. So are you trying to build up public support for this shareholder lawsuit so that you can hopefully enrich yourself as a plaintiff in it? Certainly sounds like you are most extremely biased and have a very personal axe to grind here.

So you gambled on the stock market and have lost money. Do you think that you are somehow unique in being in that position these days? There are all kinds of blue chip companies in serious trouble these days. There are top manufacturers in Japan who have not shown a loss in the last 50 years that are now losing money big time currently. And some of them are even laying off full time employees for the first time in 50 years.

I'm shocked to find that you really are an adult, a gun owner, and a member of the armed services. I would never have suspected that such a person as that would behave as you have been doing in all of your threads attacking Smith & Wesson on these online forums.

These words that you posted just over a week earlier this month on Glocktalk help to illustrate what a mixed up person that you are. Apparently you have no firmly held convictions.

"I have owned most of the polymer guns and the M&P pretty much wins."

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12281073

 

[army_eod]

Originally posted by LanceOregon:

Originally posted by army_eod:

If this is so, you may be aware of SWHC management's misstatement of earnings a while back which caused the stock price to plunge and a major class action law suit has been brought.

I did get caught in this stock decline, but I still own the stock.

Ah, so now we finally know the real story about you: That you are apparently a disgruntled stock holder, upset over the stock's recent decline. Most people know that such shareholder lawsuits are often extremely frivolous in nature, and many times go absolutely no where. It is a part of business these days, partially due to the fact that the United States has the highest per capita number of lawyers in the entire world.

Do you not realize how much you are coming across here as a crybaby? Waah, Waah, Waah. So are you trying to build up public support for this shareholder lawsuit so that you can hopefully enrich yourself as a plaintiff in it? Certainly sounds like you are most extremely biased and have a very personal axe to grind here.

So you gambled on the stock market and have lost money. Do you think that you are somehow unique in being in that position these days? There are all kinds of blue chip companies in serious trouble these days. There are top manufacturers in Japan who have not shown a loss in the last 50 years that are now losing money big time currently. And some of them are even laying off full time employees for the first time in 50 years.

I'm shocked to find that you really are an adult, a gun owner, and a member of the armed services. I would never have suspected that such a person as that would behave as you have been doing in all of your threads attacking Smith & Wesson on these online forums.

These words that you posted just over a week earlier this month on Glocktalk help to illustrate what a mixed up person that you are. Apparently you have no firmly held convictions.

"I have owned most of the polymer guns and the M&P pretty much wins."

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12281073

Maybe if you really did research you would find that I made that comment regarding my 357 M&P. It is a fine gun.

I became less than impressed with the M&P when I bought the Pro model. It had problems.

I still own the 357.

Please don't be shocked.

 

[Black_Talon]

Originally posted by army_eod on Feb 19:
I just put the M&P Pro up for sale.

I will do the same to my other one soon..

then:

Originally posted by army_eod on Feb 22:

Maybe if you really did research you would find that I made that comment regarding my 357 M&P. It is a fine gun.

I became less than impressed with the M&P when I bought the Pro model. It had problems.

I still own the 357.

Make up your mind. Are you selling it or not?

 

[texagun]

The S&W MP is a great concept. The gun has wonderful ergonomics, It feels great in the hand, is accurate, and is built in the USA, and comes with a lifetime warranty. They STILL have a problem with reliability as documented on the MP Forum. Problems with magazines dropping out at the wrong time, strikers breaking, a few instances of frames cracking, rust issues, and a few broken triggers, and other miscellaneous issues make it a nice range gun but not one I'm willing to stake my life on. I sold my MP40 and went back to my Glock 19's for a lightweight carry gun...I've never had a glitch with either one of them. When S&W gets the quality control issues resolved, I will buy another MP and give it an honest trial.
I like the concept very much.