M&P Shield 9 Failure To Extract (3)

[will9c1]

I have picked up my Shield 9mm today and have 7 or 8 fail to extract issue as the spent casing would stay half way in the chamber. It appeared that the extractor does not have enough tension to hold onto the rim of the spent casing for a complete extract. The gun was cleaned and lubed prior to firing. I will contact S&W for customer service and will keep all posted. This is my first M&P pistol as I was going to give this a try and possibly switching from my Glock 17 to M&P 9s for duty use. I guess I will have to hold off and see how this issue is resolved.

 

[coilette]

You may find this thread http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-pistols/334331-why-do-some-9mm-shields-have-fte-what-real-cause.html helpful. A number of other people (myself included) are experiencing a similar ~2% failure rate with FTEs.

 

[Horn]

Me Too

I am a hard core S&W M&P lover. Between me and the wife we have 5 of them. Never had any problems with any of them beyond the usual site paint popping out of the front site of my full size 9mm (by the way S&W sent me a full set of sites to replace them). That's what has me a little miffed, I have a not even a single malfunction from 5 different M&P's. My issue is this, Just picked up a Shield 9 on Friday went to the range today. 250rnds down range (plus 24 115gr gold dots to test my carry ammo). Had 3 "Failure To Extract" Stoppages within the first 200. Gun was right out of the box not cleaned and still had that "New Gun Smell" This in no way changes my feelings towards the Shield cause i love everything about and is an awesome addition to my line up. I am requesting replies to see if anyone else has had any issues with their Shields of any kind like this???

Yes. I have a Shield 9 purchased April 15, 2014. I've had two failures to extract firing 200 rounds Federal American Eagle 115 grs. and two firing two hundred rounds of Sellier&Bellot 115 grs. and one firing Sig Sauer Elite 124 grs.
Sent it to S&W this morning. Waiting now.

 

[johnnyk71]

Shipping/packaging oil can be really thick on some S&W's.


I prefer to clean it out of both the pistol & and the magazines before actual live-fire to confirm normal function.

I also prefer to use duty-type ammo for confirmation testing. Why introduce the potential for ammo-related issues to muddy up things before confirming the gun is running as intended & expected, right?

Running a rather small pistol already introduces enough chances for additional adverse influences ... meaning a grip position which is fine for a larger gun, but which results in thumbing a slide with a smaller gun; or a much shorter recoil spring assembly (RSA) changing the cycling rate, which can be affected by a shooter's grip/wrist lock ... things like that.

Why not try and limit the potential for non-gun influences to surface and interfere with confirmation of a new gun's optimal functioning?

I learned the hard way many years ago to refrain from using ammo not made by one of the major American companies when "breaking in" a NIB gun (and preferably not from their "budget" lines, if at all possible).

this is good advice. I just got mine today, and I was expecting something akin to pancake batter inside of it when I broke it down to clean it. not the case at all. the barrel was heavily oiled, but not too much else, really. however, when I take it out to shoot it for the first time, it will be with 124-grain FMJs and some 124-grain Gold Dots. I didn't want to cause myself doubt with cheap, light ammo, when some heavier, +P stuff might just help loosen things up a bit.

 

[M&Pmeister]

I agree a good firearm should be dependable enough to fire without lube. I've watched many a video showcasing torture test of operating firearms after being dunked in mud, frozen, submerged, etc.

That does not mean, however, I would operate my firearms in that manner IF I COULD HELP IT. I have "truck guns" that sit for months and all lube pretty much evaporated. Would I trust it to work dry in an emergency? Heck yeah! Would I inspect it and relube, if necessary, before taking it to the range? Absolutely!

 

[PHolster]

Only have 200 rounds through mine, perfect so far. I did baby and clean mine before shooting, I also did NOT dry fire mine period, and wont.

DR

I have over 1500 rounds through mine. The only issues I had was in the beginning, first 150 rounds, while I was playing with my grip, so user induced. After that, I have had no issues, it shoots anything I put in it. Very reliable and accurate. Dry firing won't hurt it. I do on occasion to practice good trigger technique.

The factory lube was very heavy on mine. I wouldn't have thought about shooting it with that much lube. I cleaned it and lubed it according to the manual. I works great. As a test, I have also taken it to the range, shot 200 rounds through it, carried it for a week in all kinds of conditions without cleaning it, taken it to the range and shot 200 or so rounds, then done it again, with no issues. It is a reliable gun.

 

[speedyquad]

when i first bought my wife her shield 9(now mine as she claimed the shield 40), she had a few fail to ejects and odd ejection patterns with one even hitting her in the forehead. i had no issues at all, except with cheap tullammo, steel cased. the next range session was just me shooting anything other than tullammo and i had absolutely no issues at allhaving noticed that, i watched her grip. i discovered 2 issues. with it being a smaller firearm, she was not getting the backstrap into the v made by her thumb and fingers. she was also limp wristing. once she corrected this, it's run flawlessly as long as aw we stay away from the steel tullammo.

she shoots often and shoots well, i did not really think anything in her form was wrong at first.

 

[RobzGuns]

^^^ It's amazing how Subcompacts can show people flaws in their shooting that Larger/Heavier pistols tend to hide.

So many people transitioning from larger/heavier pistols (who have been 'Shooting For Decades') just don't understand this and automatically blame the pistol, swearing that it's not their technique.