M&P Shield 9 garbage wish I hadn't bought

[bobnieder]

Not worth pursuing.

 

[robkarrob]

No need to comment anymore. He no longer owns a S&W and we don't have to waste our time with this thread.

Bob

 

[ditto1958]

Wow. I read the beginning of this thread, and I am biting my tongue really hard. No sense commenting any further, except to repeat: wow.

 

[Smitty357]

No need to comment anymore. He no longer owns a S&W and we don't have to waste our time with this thread.

Bob

Oh thats great news, i hope he bought a Block and got what he wanted in a weapon.

 

[ocracokenc]

Time to move on. I have had some issues but SW CS has been awesome.

 

[2tango2]

This tone of this thread is pretty similar to threads over at XD-Talk.

The XD-S is a similar sized gun (albeit a .45). A lot of people absolutely love it and have absolutely zero issues with it. There is also a number of folks who have had various issues with the gun. Most of the issues appear to be light primer strikes and failure to return to battery

People with no issues say that the problem is not the gun but the shooter and vice versa. You have people who have been shooting for years having all sorts of FTF's etc

The discussion gets a little heated, sorta like this thread in a way. I have an XD-S and have had some FTF issues. Is it a problem with the gun? I don't know. Could be my technique...I have been way from shooting for awhile and am rusty. I'm anticipating the recoil and flinching a bit. I'm working on it though

As far as the Shield not going into battery......is that with a snap cap in or not? With no snap cap I've been sitting here trying to baby the slide and have it not go into full battery. Haven't been able to make it happen.

I will say the XD-S needs a bump to going battery with a snap cap


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[Silversmok3]

While you guys bicker about tiny pistols with reliability issues, ill be cradling my 5904 before bedtime.

 

[kisportolt]

I was thinking to myself "all this thread needs now is an idiotic, uselss political comment"...

It's zombies like this that most likely voted for hope and change!!!!

The thread is complete!

 

[RussC]

Did you not read the thread above? Its not my fault SHE PICKED OUT THE GUN BEFORE WE BOUGHT IT ONLINE AND IT TESTED IT IN PERSON AND IT WORKED FINE IN THE SHOWROOM I BOUGHT IT AND PUT IT UNDER THE TREE FOR HER AFTER HAVING MY BUDDY HOLD IT FOR ME AFTER WE LEFT TO SURPRISE HER. The gun was defective as stated by the gun shop owner who took it back.....

Mrmrules

You bring up a good point. Online purchases can be a gamble when it comes to guns.

Budsguns for example cautions the buyer to inspect the gun before you sign the paper work with the FFL.

Per Buds when you sign the paperwork with the FFL the desl is done and you own the gun.

I know first hand it is not real easy returning a gun for a refund to the manufacturer.

I managed after much effort and some luck to convince Kahr to cut me a check but it is extremely rare for refunds.

I learned when I purchased a Beretta Nano and realized I had a gun that was not reliable Beretta was not handing out refund checks. Most every dissatisfied post I read on Beretta ended with the Nano owner selling or trading in the gun. I DID NOT READ ONE POST WHILE ACTIVELY ON THE BERETTA FORUM OF.BERETTA REFUNDING ANYONE FOR A "GARBAGE" NANO.

I was very lucky Cabela's of Utah took my Nano back for a full credit toward any gun and I was fortunate I selected the Shield.

I asked Cabela's if they planned to return the gun to Beretta for a full refund figuring a big account like Cabela's could push their weight around but to my surprise they ate it and resold used with full disclosure of my dissatisfaction.

Russ

P.S. lesson learned when buying a gun over the internet inspect gun for defects before you sign paperwork with FFL a nd never buy online unless you can return prior to signing paperwork.

 

[OneJzsupra]

Hmmm I mean I understand how people got upset about the title.... but again they will always have a bad apple, he just so happened to have gotten one. I think this thread has run its course.

 

[VMaxSplat]

Women are carrying these days, and there is no reason for a manfacturer to produce pistols that the average petite woman, who is not a weight lifter cannot operate.

Today's breed of ultra compacts are great, but they are basically 10# of **** in a 5# bag. Not only does the design geometry need to be correct, the springs need to be stout enough to keep the a small slide in the correct speed range wiith full spec defensive loads.

If a female can't pull the slide back, she needs to be shooting something else (revolver) better suited to her needs. This isn't a design issue with the Shield.

 

[Maddmax]

Some people are never pleased about anything and almost turn complaining into a hobby. Nuff said ???

Time to put a lock on this.

 

[M29since14]

So if you bump the Shields slide out of battery - it stays out of battery? Is this true? ...

I have been doing the promised research. My gun returns to battery without any hesitation, regardless of whether the mag is fully loaded or empty. In checking a couple of other Shields (for safety reasons they were only checked with empty mags) they all returned to battery just like my gun. The guns were all 9x19s.

I suppose I have probably 200 rounds through my Shield with a variety of different loads now. My only concern is the design of the magazine. I am no gun designer or engineer but I wish they would have made the thing with a conventional, single-column magazine, thereby avoiding the weird design of the magazine spring.

 

[MP22]

Don't sound like a mechanical problem.

 

[greybeard43]

My daughter in law likes wheel guns. She has problems operating a semi auto. (including my shield). I bought her an airweight smith and a ruger 357. She carries the ruger 99% of the time. I dont know how she did it but she managed to cut her finger on the slide serrations on my commander size .45. She shoots the shield more accurately at the range but prefers the simplicity of the revolver. I'm glad she is happy with the revolver. She is in real estate and IMOP needs to be armed.

 

[Lost Lake]

I have been doing the promised research. My gun returns to battery without any hesitation, regardless of whether the mag is fully loaded or empty. In checking a couple of other Shields (for safety reasons they were only checked with empty mags) they all returned to battery just like my gun. The guns were all 9x19s.

You have to have a round in the chamber. Do a press check. Mine will stay out of battery until I pull the trigger a bit. I'm going to see what I can polish to fix it.

 

[M29since14]

Understand that. In the case of the two "loaner guns" I could not safely do that, so I tried to point that out in my writing but I guess I was not clear.

All I can say about them is that they seemed to behave exactly like my gun. It will return to battery without regard to chamber loaded/unloaded and/or whether the mag is full, has only a round or two, or is empty. So I cannot speak with certainty on the loaners but my gun is not a concern in this regard.

Seems like a good little gun, but having my magazine spring confound itself on my second outing with it, I am a little concerned about that. I bought another new magazine to see if it causes similar trouble. Maybe the original magazine was defective when I received it? The mag in question is the shorter one; the one without the grip extension. So far, I have not used the mag with the grip extension.

 

[ckwall]

I have the Shield .40 and I can reproduce exactly what this person is complaining about. If I do not pull back and let go clean of the slide, the ejector will not clear the rim of the round. In my experience, this is caused by improper use of the firearm. Just as he describes, if he does not function the gun correctly, it will not seat correctly, 100% of the time. The gun works properly.

Additionally, he did indicate that the gun is too stiff for the shooter using this. It is important to note that you must get the gun best suited for the shooter. Not everyone is built the same.

I commend the poster for making the choice to choose the gun that is most suited for her use, rather than her choosing against carrying the gun at all. However, it is an inaccurate statement to say that the gun does not work properly, simply because the user cannot function the slide correctly.

My .02 ;-)

 

[tom310]

I bought a PK 380 for my wife 10 and half lb slide spring, not bad light shell, gun not as tight as the MP s. Would not want to stop big bad guys with it but ok.

 

[claimbuster]

Adressing this to the OP, we offer really good bail out prices here in Texas to shooters like you with the problems you have. In fact, your *** would be going to a couple of very understanding senior citizens on a fixed income that would appreciate the help.