M&P Shield CC/Gun Issues & Problems

Epiphany

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I'm new to the forums but wanted to give my rundown of my recent purchase of the M&P 9mm Shield.

I've been reading through the forums and have seen several people having similar issues to mine. I got it for my wife this weekend as she liked the ability to grip it not like the XDS and even the Ruger LC9. At the shop she was having a difficult time racking the slide back. Figured it was new and needed to break in but when I got home tore the gun down for cleaning and put it back together it would just stop close from reaching the locking sear. I would have to rack it a couple of times just to lock it back. Not something I would want my wife to do since shes been having a hard time with it.

We went to the range that same day. We put over 70 rds through the gun that day. At least 5 failure to eject in that time. Frustrating because you have to lock the slide back to get the empty casing out which again was just stopping close to the locking sear. It wasn't even shooting straight too. I took my time with the shots and it was difficult to even hit paper at 5 yrds. I had my XD9 and was able to double tap center mass no problem. Figured it was the trigger because it felt gritty and wanted to hang up when it was about to break possibly causing me and my wife to not shoot well. It seemed to shoot to the left and down for the most part when it was consistent.

Went home disappointed with the gun. Cleaned it out and figured maybe it needed some break in. After cleaning I spent almost 4 hrs on and off just cycling the gun and pulling the trigger. Had to have been over 1k times. Tied locking the slide back sometime and it still lacked the ability to lock the slide back. It was able to lock back with both empty magazines but again it stopped just short of the locking sear. Tried to push more but it acted like it was stuck. After racking a couple of times to it finally locked. I also adjusted the front sight to the left to center it since it came from the factory not centered. We ended up going out the next day to test it out.

This time I shot another 80 rds through it. The first magazine was great but still disappointing. Got a 6 inch group at 5 yds to where with my XD I got a good 1 inch group. I received 3 more failure to eject during the time I was shooting also. The more I shot the gun seemed to me that the worse the accuracy got. The thing I'm disappointed in is that if it was 10 yrds that grouping would have gotten worse. Doesn't give me very great confidence in the ability for my wife to CC. And she always shoots better than me.

Couple things to note from my observations is that all the casings from this gun have a scorched triangle mark on the casing. Just seems weird cause it shouldn't do that right? I've never seen something like that before. When racking and cycling the trigger I also noted that there was a noticeable movement in the slide moving up on the rear of the slide when the trigger broke. As the barrel is pretty much attached to the slide at this point would this explain the reason the gun was shooting low?

After all this, my wife's and I do not really feel comfortable with this gun. She'd rather CC my full size XD since I've never had any issues. We took it back to the shop to get them to possibly warranty it. They look at me a little weird at first but were helpful in trying to help me out. I let them shoot the gun too. They put both clips through and no failure to ejects. They said they saw nothing wrong except that it was a "little dry" when I brought it in. We'll see what ends up happening. Their gunsmith will take a look at it and if nothing is done it'll be sent to S&W for review.

My wife and I have just been looking forward to getting this gun from all the good reviews and that people have been getting pretty good accuracy out of it but since getting it we've changed our mind about it is quite disconcerting and disappointing because it was going to be her CC pistol. Something that you would depend your life on when the time comes. The gun shouldn't have this many issue and when it comes down to failure to eject and accuracy issues it really matters because when you shoot you just want to shoot the baddie and not some innocent bystander.
 
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Sorry to hear about the issues you're having with it. Mine is super accurate after realizing I was shooting low left and it was my fault because of trigger pull. After that, shooting 10 yards I was in a very tight 2-3" grouping with both the 9mm and the .40 although a bit better with the 9mm.

Since your having issue's with the slide not locking and the fired casings look to have scorched triangle marks, you may want to contact S&W and send it in. These are hand made and mistakes happen.

Hope you get it worked out
 
That's a shame you have those problems. Hopefully they will be resolved.

I am most fortunate to have purchased a new Shield 9 a few weeks ago which has been operating flawlessly. Yes, at first I did have difficulties with the slide and accuracy but as it turns out both were operator error since corrected.

The slide works perfectly and is slightly easier to operate now that it has worked in with a couple hundred rounds and lots of dry firing. Mostly the problem was that the slide needs to be pulled almost all the way back to lock it where the spring tension is the greatest.

The accuracy issue was a lazy trigger finger from using light target gun SA triggers. A small repositioning of the finger brought the group on target and tight.

I am very, very happy with this little gun.
 
I've tried re-positioning the recoil spring different ways. It still seems to not want to lock back sometimes. Been getting little bit better but when you think its gone it comes back.

I'm just waiting on what the gun shop says and if they are going to have it processed through to S&W. Hopefully so and fix cause I really don't want to keep sending it back and waiting for a couple weeks at a time.

Shop has all sales are final and can't get another one and will have to sell it through private sale. She liked the XDS but the Shield fit better in her hand. From a lot of reviews and being from a big well versed company I'd expect that quality control would be top notch but I understand some can get through the cracks. Its just weird that the culmination of problems I've had and from multiple similar issues that others have been having that should not have happen'd. S&W drop the ball somewhere to sell a cheaper gun with fast production. I'd rather see them put more time and effort in a quality product so these issues wouldn't arise.
 
Welcome to the forum. I am also sorry to hear of the problems with your Shield. Mine is a 40 and not a 9, but I sympathize with any Shield owner that has issues and isn't happy with their gun. I got mine in Feb '14, and have had no problems at all, other than the same low left like a lot of others, and thats one me. Hopefully your gremlins will get taken care of, and then you can reap the benefits of a great little gun.
 
i purchased my wife a shield 9 about a month ago...brand new...she had a few fail to ejects and some accuracy issues...something she has never had with my sigma and my 40c...i, like you was a little worried about the gun. then i shot it. i had accuracy issues that i knew was me shooting a smaller gun for the first time. the fail to ejects disappeared. i again had her shoot it and concentrated on watching her grip while she shot. she was not gripping the gun properly at all. i corrected her and all of sudden no more fail to ejects, her groups tightened up and centered around the bull. user error not the gun, which may very well be your case also.
 
I have a week left hand and initially had a problem racking the slide back on the shield, and locking it.

It is realistically no longer a problem for me.

When I wanted to lock it back, I put in an empty magazine, and would slingshot it. Also, I learned that if you push the gun with the right hand, and pull the slide back with the left, at the same time, it is much easier to rack.

The bottom line, after racking by hand, and firing a box or two through it, it is no longer a problem of any sort. As a matter of fact, I just came back from the range, and your post is the only thing that reminded me of how it seemed to be before.
 
Epiphany
Couple things to note from my observations is that all the casings from this gun have a scorched triangle mark on the casing

Is the triangle on the front edge of the casing?
Is the casing front edge slightly flattened?
In the last few days, I found this condition an some of my shells fired from a 40 FS. The casing was hitting or rubbing the inside the slide and had a left a copper colored line to show me. The ammo was 25, or so, year-old Lawman 180 gr FMJ. Next time to range I used four different brands and the Lawman was the only very noticeable one. The Winchester only showed a little of the effect, if you looked closely. The other two realistically didn't show anything unexpected.
 
It was seared from the front of the casing and checked for marks on the slide and nothing. Didn't seem like it rubbed against anything. Ammo was pretty new. Had no issues firing it from my XD.

With the FTE issue it complicates things because if my wife has that malfunction she has a hard time locking it back. If it acts up and doesn't want to lock back it's very difficult for her to do so. Watched her as that issue happened at the range. Made her clear the fault but it was difficult for her to lock it back.
 
I was at the range two weeks ago and there was a lady who's husband bought her a 9mm shield as well. She had a few FTE's and was having major accuracy issues at 7yards, but had 6inch groups with a FS m&p. The instructor told her that she was absorbing too much of the recoil with her arms. When you combine that with strong springs, there is not enough energy to push the slide back and fully eject the shell. Once she adjusted her stance and grip, she had no FTE's and "better" accuracy. The fact is for such a small light gun, having only two fingers on the grip, and never having shot a gun she was in for a long day. She got better as the day progressed. I tried a 40 shield this past weekend and liked it but the recoil was pretty sharp, but i was still able to keep it accurate with no FTE. (I am fairly new to handguns, so I don't have a whole lot to compare to).
 
As has been said by most others, the problems noted have are quite common and have been written about on this forum for months/years. I bought my Shield in 9mm in Feb and had all of the issues mentioned. I have fired over 1000 rounds through it and those problems are gone, no FTE, slide is easier to lock back, and the recoil spring has loosened up. My wife still struggles a bit racking it but can do it. As for accuracy, we also had problems getting groupings we had with our Glock 19 Gen 4. One of the forum members suggested we dry fire it to get used to the heavier trigger (we were low left), and then start at 3 yds, going to 5 and then to 7 yds. We got the sight picture down and are now getting really nice groupings. It is frustrating when you have a gun that you can shoot and have no problems with out of the box, and then shoot the Shield. However, it is a great gun, great for a CCW, and fun to shoot. Just give it some time, and practice, and you'll be as happy with it as most Shield owners are. I hope your problems clear up soon.
 
Couple things to note from my observations is that all the casings from this gun have a scorched triangle mark on the casing. Just seems weird cause it shouldn't do that right? I've never seen something like that before.

Scorching on cases is not unusual. It occurs when combustion gas gets between the case and chamber wall before the case fully expands to seal the chamber. There are several things that can lead to scorching, but the most common is probably lower-pressure loads that do not expand the brass quickly enough. Scorching is very common on .38 or .45 brass with light target loads.
 
With a narrow piece of stair tape on the front and backstrap, to counter the grip's slipperiness, and an Apex sear to smooth and shorten the trigger stroke, my Shield has no problems at all.

The stock sights are great (after removing the 3 white dots) and I find it's more than accurate enough for IDPA target head shots @ 7 yards. Which is all the accuracy I need in a defensive handgun.

IMO the 9mm Shield is a great little gun. At least mine is!

/c
 
Too many guys want their wives to have an semi auto pistol, then are surprised when their wives are not immediately proficient with them, even though it may be their first time shooting a ccw-type pistol, vs a target or range gun. I've been shooting pistols for 30 plus years, including years of working as a security contractor for different clients including the federal govt. My own wife, when we finally got concealed carry a few years ago, decided she wanted a semi auto pistol. "because they were cool". I had recommended a J-frame, but decided to bite my tongue until she heard what her instructor's opinion was.
Well, I'm happy to report my wife tried various guns in her concealed carry class, and decided to go with a smith 442 j-frame. She became very confident in it right away, and it can ride in her purse with no fear of an AD. She has small hands, and racking slides, can be challenging. I've often carried a j-frame myself as a back-up on duty, and for concealed carry. While I enjoy guns for all their beauty, my wife thinks of it in more practical terms. In so many of these forums, I see young guys projecting their taste in guns on their wives and girlfriends and possibly causing them to be in danger if they aren't going to practice often enough. I'm very happy that my wife has confidence in her .38, and honestly, it has plenty of power to get the job done at "bad-breath range". If at some point in the future she decides she wants an auto and will become proficient with it, that'd be great. However, in the mean time, she's got a jframe in her purse, another in her desk, and a gp-100 in her nightstand.
 
Just send an email to S&W with model # and serial # and ask for a new recoil spring. They will send you one free of charge. I got mine but it took almost a month to get.
 
Nothing wrong with a J-frame. I carried one for quite some time, not very accurate beyond 10' but it has a 2" barrel and virtually no sights. It was very comfortable to wear IWB in a Bianchi holster.

However, it doesn't even come close to my Shield.
 
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