touchoneoff
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Those mag guts look interesting. Just bought this:
May have to try them. Thanks for posting.
May have to try them. Thanks for posting.
M&P shield owners, check it out
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falconman515
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Any update on these?
Just bought a new Shield 9 for carry and would always be welcome to have an extra round.
But not with the risk of unreliability.
Anyone been testing these over the last few months?
Just bought a new Shield 9 for carry and would always be welcome to have an extra round.
But not with the risk of unreliability.
Anyone been testing these over the last few months?
EOChief66
Member
I had trouble loading the new mags, so I went the Uplula route also. Great loader, works great!
I have them in 7 round and 8 round mags and have run 500+ rounds with no issues. You can, with a loader, put a 10th round in the modified 8 round mag and that can cause a jam. Called mag guts to see if this was normal and he said they advised using the stock, plastic baseplate on the 8 round mags. Problem solved (not that it really was a problem), now even with the Uplula, only 9 rounds will go in. Weather they are worth the money or not is up to you but they do work reliably.
Bozz10mm
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I ordered one of these and installed it in a spare 7 round mag. The instructions are a bit confusing as to how to mate up the two springs. Youtube video was very helpful tho.
Loaded up the mag with 8 snap caps several times and cycled them thru the pistol with no problem. Next time I get to the range, I will test them extensively with live ammo, especially with 8+1. Nothing but good reviews on the M-P pistol forum.
Loaded up the mag with 8 snap caps several times and cycled them thru the pistol with no problem. Next time I get to the range, I will test them extensively with live ammo, especially with 8+1. Nothing but good reviews on the M-P pistol forum.
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Protected One
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Rather than tampering with the spring why not buy a loader?
In my experience, the spring does loosen up (or I got use to it being strong).
I'd carry with one less round before tampering with the spring!
Magload
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Why one more wheel guns have worked well with just 6 for years.
Capacity is a personal choice. With the threat of multiple attackers and the growing domestic terror threat, I choose to carry 2 mags with the +1 kits. I wish I lived somewhere that I was comfortable with 6 rounds, but my city is declining fast!
Yup... about 500 or so mag loads through the two I bought.
As mentioned in Experience with MagGuts?
While I'm now using MagGuts as my carry setup, I would strongly suggest that anyone who buys it, to do their own 'Shake Down' test before trusting it for carry... Just as anyone would strongly suggest that rather than blindly trusting a new handgun for carry, doing a 'Shake Down' on IT before carrying.
Bought two to try out. I put one in an 8 round mag and using an UpLuLa (had to ) got 9 rounds to fit. Had to slap the mag VERY hard to get it to fit with the slide closed. The 7 round mag is still a 7 round mag, no way you'll get an 8th round in, I use an Pearse grip extension so maybe that is what prevents an 8th round. Will take them to the range this weekend but so far not impressed. 
falconman515
Member
Well that's a bummer ... I will only be running the 7 rounder when I carry in my shield with the Pierce extension plate and would like to add one more round if possible.
Bummer.
Bummer.
If you can't EASILY get 8 rounds into the regular mag and 9 into the extended mag, something didn't go together right. Of course you wouldn't be impressed (yet). I'd suggest taking them apart and redoing them from scratch, until they do both accept 1 extra round and seat into the pistol with a simple push.Bought two to try out. I put one in an 8 round mag and using an UpLuLa (had to ) got 9 rounds to fit. Had to slap the mag VERY hard to get it to fit with the slide closed. The 7 round mag is still a 7 round mag, no way you'll get an 8th round in, I use an Pearse grip extension so maybe that is what prevents an 8th round. Will take them to the range this weekend but so far not impressed.
Check out the entire thread on mp-pistols forum I referenced on page 1 of this thread and you'll see that others have had the same problem and how they had to redo it. They may be a pain to get inserted properly, but once they do, you'll like 'em.
Grey.Ghost
Member
No issues here. I'm up to 182 rounds in each of my standard length mags with the new guts. No problems loading the last round, no feed issues, and very, very pleased. They have now transitioned to full time carry mags
falconman515
Member
I think for Concealed Carry I'm gonna pass
I need realiability more then an extra round if the time ever comes.
I did buy and extra 7 round mag so I think I wil use that mag when I carry and then maybe buy this kit for the 7 and 8 round mag that came with my Shield so I can have an extra round when shooting at the range.
If I ever buy these and try them I will be sure to come back and leave my thoughts.
Thanks
I need realiability more then an extra round if the time ever comes.
I did buy and extra 7 round mag so I think I wil use that mag when I carry and then maybe buy this kit for the 7 and 8 round mag that came with my Shield so I can have an extra round when shooting at the range.
If I ever buy these and try them I will be sure to come back and leave my thoughts.
Thanks
@Falconman515...
Do get one for your range mag and thoroughly run it. When/if it proves reliable, THEN consider using it for carry. That's what I did... I didn't start off considering it for carry.
I just wanted something that would:
@oadad2015...
I just bought 3 more, for a total of 5 mags and 2 of these three sets did as yours did. I was just barely able to get the 8th round into the modified 7 round mag. I took them apart, checked spring orientation, reassembled... One mag, I needed to play with twice... and they now load properly AND seat easily. So don't give up on the spring kits yet.
Rest assured, that these last three setups will only be used as range mags, until they have proven themselves, just as I did with the first 2 mags. Once they've proven themselves, I'll move them into the carry rotation.
** Do not Blindly trust any new Carry Pistol, Trigger Kit install, or Spring modification, until thoroughly tested by you. **
Do get one for your range mag and thoroughly run it. When/if it proves reliable, THEN consider using it for carry. That's what I did... I didn't start off considering it for carry.
I just wanted something that would:
- Make my range mags easier to load (without needing to have my UpLULA) and
- Make it easier to seat the mags into the mag well (without needing to slam it home)
@oadad2015...
I just bought 3 more, for a total of 5 mags and 2 of these three sets did as yours did. I was just barely able to get the 8th round into the modified 7 round mag. I took them apart, checked spring orientation, reassembled... One mag, I needed to play with twice... and they now load properly AND seat easily. So don't give up on the spring kits yet.
Rest assured, that these last three setups will only be used as range mags, until they have proven themselves, just as I did with the first 2 mags. Once they've proven themselves, I'll move them into the carry rotation.
** Do not Blindly trust any new Carry Pistol, Trigger Kit install, or Spring modification, until thoroughly tested by you. **
I really agree with this...Were this to be a stable option then why did the S&W, Glock, Ruger, and other manufacturer engineers not design their mag's in this fashion and offer it as standard.?
One could say the EXACT same thing about Apex Trigger Kits, extended Mag Releases, extended Slide Stops, Night Sights and just about any other aftermarket piece, couldn't we??
One could say the EXACT same thing about Apex Trigger Kits, extended Mag Releases, extended Slide Stops, Night Sights and just about any other aftermarket piece, couldn't we??
Yes..I agree with this also...we most certainly could..but round capacity is a critical factor to all manufacturers and obviously increased capacity is a large marketing factor for any handgun. Trigger kits, extended mag releases, extended slide stops, different sights while very nice and desirable to some, in my opinion are not as critical as capacity. Therefore my thinking is that if they were as good as original spec's they would be original specs..I could envision feeding problems without some very high tolerance's which I am not sure these mag guts type conversions have. Just saying........
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