M&P sport trigger upgrade options

[Kadonny]

The $149.00 CMC 3.5 drop in trigger went in my Sport.
Big difference in the accuracy dept. Im very satisfied with it.
3.5#s works great for me.

I have a CMC drop in also, in my .300blk. I like it, very nice single stage.

 

[flyfishinjunkee]

I ended up getting the geissele g2s this morning from midway. I'll let you guys know how it works.

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[Gaucho59]

I never hear anyone talking about them, but I put an Elfman in mine. It's awesome, what a difference! Expensive yes, but it goes in and comes out so easily (under 5 minute job) that I'll keep it any AR I might upgrade to in the future. I got the curved one: Match Trigger | Elftmann Tactical Online Store

 

[blues7]

I never hear anyone talking about them, but I put an Elfman in mine. It's awesome, what a difference! Expensive yes, but it goes in and comes out so easily (under 5 minute job) that I'll keep it any AR I might upgrade to in the future. I got the curved one: Match Trigger | Elftmann Tactical Online Store

The Elftmann trigger got a great review in this article on TTAG.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I read that on May 18 Elftman and some other drop-in trigger manufacturers are being sued by Mossberg for patent infringement. I don't know how successful the lawsuits might be, some say they won't be, but I would consider the possibility some of these small time operators like Elftman not surviving the legal costs or royalties or both. So whatever warranty they may promise might not be worth the paper it's written on.

 

[WVSig]

I know the OP already bought his trigger but I thought I would still chime in for the benefit of others who might be like me a bit late to the party. In the end which trigger you choose really depends on what you will use the rifle for. All of my ARs are multi purpose guns so no 2-3lb single stage triggers for me. I want something that is clean and crisp but also reliable. If I was setting up a dedicate bench shooter or 3 gun AR my choices would change a bit.

ALG is a solid choice and is the best low cost upgrade on the market. The QMS $49 or the ACT at $69 will give you a quality milspec trigger with a clean brake but in the 5.5 lb range.

Larue Tactical MBT S2 is my next favorite trigger. It is an amazing 2 stage trigger. It is a 4.5 lb trigger with 2 stages. 2.5 lbs for the first stage and 2 lbs for the second. It is clean a crisp. It breaks somewhere in between a carrot and a candy cane. I used to put the Geissele G2S in this spot because you can get it on sale for about $125 but if you have the time to wait the LaRue can be had for the same price. $125 the wait time is about days for "I got plenty of time" price. The get it now price is still a deal at $199. It is as good as the Geissele SSA. Maybe even a little more crisp.

The Geissele G2S is a great trigger as well. It is basically a SSA but with less finishing and testing. At $165 regular price and $125ish on sale it still is a great value but I think the LaRue is better.

The Geissele SSA is my next choice. It is really one of the standard bearers for AR triggers. They are pricey. $240 full boat but can be found on sale around $180. Just about everything they make are great. The SSA is a dependable trigger on a multi- purpose gun. 4.5 lbs 2 stage trigger that will not fail you when it matters. It breaks like a carrot. It is not a break like glass trigger.

If you are looking for a fast run and gun trigger where speed is everything I would look at the Geissele Super Dynamic 3 Gun because it is a single stage 3.5-4lb trigger with a very short reset. If you do your part you can run a gun fast with one of these. Check out this video.

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If I was looking for a bench shooter I would consider the Geissele Hi-Speed National Match. Adjustable under and can be run at 2-3.5 lbs. 2 stage but the second stage is glass.

As you can see I like Geissele. I personally stay away from the RRA 2 stage triggers because there was a time that they were dropping their 2nd stage under heavy use. Many considered it a when not and if that you would lose the 2nd stage of the trigger. They seem to have improved but with the price of the LaRue or the G2S being so close to the RRA I would pass even with the current better QC.

I have no experience with the Wilson trigger but most reports have been solid but the price vs other known quantities has kept me from buying one.

 

[WVSig]

I read that on May 18 Elftman and some other drop-in trigger manufacturers are being sued by Mossberg for patent infringement. I don't know how successful the lawsuits might be, some say they won't be, but I would consider the possibility of some of these small time operators like Elftman not surviving the legal costs or royalties or both. So whatever warranty they may promise might not be worth the paper it's written on.

I think the major factor will be is Mossberg asking for future royalties or are they going to go after past sales as well. I think the big guys will settle and survive but the smaller operators might not be able to do the same. If past sales are part of the picture I cannot imagine smaller operators having the cash to pay back royalties.

Of course assuming that they can win the suit which might not be the case.

 

[blues7]

I read that on May 18 Elftman and some other drop-in trigger manufacturers are being sued by Mossberg for patent infringement. I don't know how successful the lawsuits might be, some say they won't be, but I would consider the possibility some of these small time operators like Elftman not surviving the legal costs or royalties or both.

According to this report on TTAG, it doesn't sound promising for Mossberg's prospects of winning the case.

That said, a protracted legal battle, (assuming the case is not dismissed for lack of merit), could spell disaster for smaller shops without the financial wherewithal to withstand the expense of a trial and lengthy appeals process (even if they eventually won and countersued to recover their legal costs).

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I think the major factor will be is Mossberg asking for future royalties or are they going to go after past sales as well. I think the big guys will settle and survive but the smaller operators might not be able to do the same. If past sales are part of the picture I cannot imagine smaller operators having the cash to pay back royalties.

Of course assuming that they can win the suit which might not be the case.

List of defendants. Looks like several one-trick pony operators.

Rise Armament, of Broken Arrow, Oklahoma; Franklin Armory, of Minden, Nevada; Tactical Fire Control, of Phoenix; Velocity Triggers, of Phoenix; Patriot Ordnance Factory, of Phoenix; KE Arms, of Phoenix; Hogan Guns, of Glendale, Arizona; Elftmann Tactical, of Glendale, Arizona; DOA Arms, of Chesapeake, Virginia; Black Rain Ordnance, of Neosho, Missouri; Battle Tested Equipment, of Phoenix; and, TriggerTech, listed as 2360216 Ontario Inc, of Ontario, Canada.

 

[tcon]

I polished up the contact points on my 6920 with ACOG and that made it very smooth but still not what I wanted.

Weighing four options costing over $180 and not having the opportunity to try any out without buying it, and also not wanting to be disappointed, I chose a Wilson TR-TTU-M2.

Holy Moley. Now I can't blame loose 100yd + groups on my trigger. I do always warn people who I let shoot my carbine about the trigger because they are expecting to be able to lay their finger on the trigger and tighten up to prepare for a shot. There is no hand prep required for the TTU.

 

[blues7]

Good to hear, tcon. Seems that the TTU's great reputation around these parts was come by honestly.

It would be interesting to fire the single stage TTU and dual stage M2 versions side by side to experience the difference firsthand since they are both rated at 4 lbs.

 

[bergermeister]

Best choice for the $ I know of..

I use a Rock River 2 stage trigger from AR15Sales in all my Ar's. They are a low cost trigger with a clean 4 pound pull. The last one I bought was $99 dollars with free shipping if I remember correctly.

If you are not familiar with doing a 'triggerjob' you best forget it- You may improve it a little or make something totally unsafe. The geometry on the mil-spec requires initially fighting the hammer spring no matter what you do to improve it. The RR 2- stage is the best for the money, light, clean and crisp. Based on several high-dollar triggers I am familiar with and being proficient at polishing mil-spec's; Most people will be totally happy with the RR.
No, I will not argue the subjective point that most shooters will benefit with a high-dollar trigger over the RR 2-stage

 

[flyfishinjunkee]

Frustrated!

So, I received the G2S today and installed it in my new m&p sport 2... I believe I'm having a problem with the trigger, its not behaving as I'd expect it to. I've installed it several times and I'm 99% sure its in there correctly, not sure what is wrong! This isnt the first AR trigger I've installed....

Once installed the trigger appears to function in FIRE and SAFE mode. When pulled it has quite a bit of take-up, then stops. When I pull further the hammer drops. I dont feel 2 "stages".. measured trigger pull at the only stage I feel and its about 4#... Any suggestions here? I'm thinking I got a wrong part or installed something incorrectly....

 

[WVSig]

So, I received the G2S today and installed it in my new m&p sport 2... I believe I'm having a problem with the trigger, its not behaving as I'd expect it to. I've installed it several times and I'm 99% sure its in there correctly, not sure what is wrong! This isnt the first AR trigger I've installed....

Once installed the trigger appears to function in FIRE and SAFE mode. When pulled it has quite a bit of take-up, then stops. When I pull further the hammer drops. I dont feel 2 "stages".. measured trigger pull at the only stage I feel and its about 4#... Any suggestions here? I'm thinking I got a wrong part or installed something incorrectly....

Have you shot 2 stage triggers before?

 

[flyfishinjunkee]

Have you shot 2 stage triggers before?

Yes, only one in my uncles AR. It has 2 distinct stages. I only feel one stage with this trigger.

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[WVSig]

Yes, only one in my uncles AR. It has 2 distinct stages. I only feel one stage with this trigger.

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Do you have a trigger pull gauge? I bet the "take up" you are feeling is 2.5 lbs and the then 2 lbs and it then it breaks.

 

[flyfishinjunkee]

Guess I was confused as to how this trigger works, looks like it's fine . I'll send a range report once I get this thing out. Trigger pull is just over 4 lbs..

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