M&P version of the G19?

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Is there an M&P pistol that is comparable in size and weight to the Glock 19? I looked on the S&W site and it looks like there is a M&P version of the G17 and a version of the G26? Then there is the "pro version" whatever that means. The S&W site is not exactly a wealth of organized info about these pistols.

What is the deal with the lock, mag disconnect, and safety lever? Can you get these pistols with or without these things? Are there separate sku numbers for guns with/without lock, mag disconnect, safety?

Are the M&P pistols generally slimmer than the Glocks?

Can backstraps be changed out on the compact (G26) model?

About how much are magazines for these?

Thanks
 
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Is there an M&P pistol that is comparable in size and weight to the Glock 19? I looked on the S&W site and it looks like there is a M&P version of the G17 and a version of the G26? Then there is the "pro version" whatever that means. The S&W site is not exactly a wealth of organized info about these pistols.

What is the deal with the lock, mag disconnect, and safety lever? Can you get these pistols with or without these things? Are there separate sku numbers for guns with/without lock, mag disconnect, safety?

Are the M&P pistols generally slimmer than the Glocks?

Can backstraps be changed out on the compact (G26) model?

About how much are magazines for these?

Thanks
 
Originally posted by Wayne02:
Is there an M&P pistol that is comparable in size and weight to the Glock 19? I looked on the S&W site and it looks like there is a M&P version of the G17 and a version of the G26? Then there is the "pro version" whatever that means. The S&W site is not exactly a wealth of organized info about these pistols.

What is the deal with the lock, mag disconnect, and safety lever? Can you get these pistols with or without these things? Are there separate sku numbers for guns with/without lock, mag disconnect, safety?

Are the M&P pistols generally slimmer than the Glocks?

Can backstraps be changed out on the compact (G26) model?

About how much are magazines for these?

Thanks
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I don't think there's much difference in the thickness between the Glocks and the M&Ps, but I definitely prefer how the M&P feels in hand...sadly, I can only carry a Glock or Sig.

The M&P Pro is a 5" slide that's similar to the Glock 34/35.

The other size comparisons aren't as clear cut between the Glocks and M&Ps. The Glock 17 has a 4.5" barrel and the Glock 19 has a 4" barrel. The M&P has a 4.25" barrel. So, the standard M&P roughly splits the difference between the two Glocks.

The G26/27 is smaller than the M&P Compact model, buy a fair amount...enough that the state police here don't issue the Compact as a backup gun. They're issuing the M&P 340 for that. I'm not a big guy and carry a G27 in an ankle rig as backup and it's doable, but any bigger wouldn't work.
 
To me the M&Pc sits between the Glock 26 and 19. The backstraps are changeable just as the full size. The slide contour is more rounded than the Glock. Mags can be had for around $32 right now, not sure about next week.
 
That's a lot of questions, Wayne. A couple have been answered, and maybe some confusion tossed in, too.

While the barrel length of the standard, if you want to call it that, M&P is less than the G17 and a little more than the G19, it is in the grip that the Glock 19 has the edge.......a fair amount shorter than either full sized pistol. Yet only 2-3 rounds less.
I feel the M&P compact is very comparable to the G26/27 or 33 and 39 grouping...maybe a fraction longer on the grip side, which lets me get a little pinky purchase, and just a fraction longer, overall. M&Ps tend to be just a tad heavier, due at least partly to the steel rail embedded in the polymer frame.
The S&w .45s are definitly slimmer than the Glock version, but you lose a few rounds in the trade off (13 vs. 10 round mag in full size, 10 vs. 8 in the compacts).
Since the hand appeal to me is so far in favor of the S&W, I reluctantly surrender the rounds.
Not all that sure about mag disconnect.......lock sort of shows up when you least expect it, but is not the same annoying lock that you find on the revolvers. So far, the safety lever, if you are referring to the manual 1911-type, is only offered on the .45 models.
I used to love Glocks more than any other pistol.........simple, reliable, relativley cheap......but the damned M&P line just feels so much better........and seems to be as reliable, although time will tell.........Glock is a pretty high standard to surpass.
 
Good to see this discussion. I really like the complete dissassembly feature of the Glock. The M&P is comfortable. The price (right now) is very appealing on the M&P.

The question I must decide upon is do I buy another plastic gun or go for the finely crafted steel of the Sig?
 
I would get the M&P. The Sig is a well made pistol but unless you can become conversant with the da/sa trigger mechanism, the M&P is easier to manage. Additionally, the height of the slide gives the sig a somewhat greater felt muzzle flip reci slide.
The sig is good, in my mind though you have to give the Glock and M&P pistols their due, they are good designs. For my money the M&P is much better in ergos than the Glock and my two have been very reliable.
AFAIK, the mag safety is still an option, neither of mine have it.
 
I put a compact M-P .45 down on top of a Glock 19 the other day to compare size, they were nearly identical. I think the M&P was thinner.
Darn sure better looking, if that matters...
 
Originally posted by Wayne02:
Is there an M&P pistol that is comparable in size and weight to the Glock 19? I looked on the S&W site and it looks like there is a M&P version of the G17 and a version of the G26? Then there is the "pro version" whatever that means. The S&W site is not exactly a wealth of organized info about these pistols.

What is the deal with the lock, mag disconnect, and safety lever? Can you get these pistols with or without these things? Are there separate sku numbers for guns with/without lock, mag disconnect, safety?

Are the M&P pistols generally slimmer than the Glocks?

Can backstraps be changed out on the compact (G26) model?

About how much are magazines for these?

Thanks
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The 2008 S&W catalog has a big chart giving all the specs and so forth along with the SKU numbers.

Generally, if the 6 digit SKU number starts with a 1, it is low capacity (10 rounds or less), if it starts with a 2 it is standard capacity (15 in 40 and 17 in 9mm, etc.) and if it starts with a 3, it contains 3 standard (high) capacity mags in the box instead of the usual two. SKU numbers starting with a 3 are generally LE packaging, although you occasionally see commercial distributors selling them as well.

As to the last 3 numbers, if the last three starts with a 2, it has the mag safety, but not the internal lock and if the last three starts with a 3 it has neither an internal lock or mag safety.

The M&Ps might not be much slimmer, but they feel alot slimmer due to the rounded slides. The 45 version is the same width as the 9mm version and therefore MUCH slimmer than the 45 Glock, even the new SF Glock.

Backstraps are interchangeable on the compact M&Ps.

Magazines vary widely in price. Retail is shown on S&W's web site. Many places sell them direct to consumers for near dealer price.
 
Originally posted by Anton Chigurh:
I used to love Glocks more than any other pistol.........simple, reliable, relativley cheap......but the damned M&P line just feels so much better........and seems to be as reliable, although time will tell.........Glock is a pretty high standard to surpass.
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That is pretty much where I'm at as well. The only Glocks left in the house belong to my wife and she is stuck on her G17. Has been for the last 14 or so years and probably will be for life.

I'm a big fan of the Glock design, reliability, light weight, ease of maintainance etc. Also like how I can get the thing wet while working on the farm and not have to worry about breaking it down right away and drying it out for fear of rust. I find the older I get the less patience I have for dainty or high maintenance tools.

Unfortunately, despite putting in a fair bit of effort behind the trigger the Glock has just never pointed well for me. My 1911's and M92 seem like an extension of my hand/arm and I never really have to think about it when I shoot them. Not so much with the Glock.

Sounds like the M&P compact nine is bigger than I am picturing it to be. I don't like the G26 size and the G17 seems too large for IWB carry. The G19 carries "ok" IWB, though it could stand to be slimmer and less blocky.

I'm not hung up on capacity as it is a distant requirement to reliability, durability (rust resistance), ease of carry, and ergonomics for my use.

Can you get a full grip purchase on the M&P compact 9? What if a finger extension is added to the mag? Will this then bring the grip length out to the G19 length?

Thanks to all for the replies. I'll call around and see if I can find a rental range with some of the M&P in stock to try out.
 
I use to carry my G19. Then I got my hands on an M&P 9C and I was sold.
The M&P has a smaller feel to carry & I find it to shoot a little better for me, It just has a better grip angle for me and comes back on target quicker.

I also just picked up an M&P 45 with factory nightsights & the thumb safty. I wanted the new MID SIZE but ended up with the full size ONLY BECAUSE OF THE DEAL with the nightsights. I paid $489 & I will get back $50 from S&W.

I do plan on getting an M&P 45 MID SIZE.
Shot the compact & liked it but I foung a holster that is incredable for carry.

If you have not tried the DESANTIS SCORPION #38 you don't know what you are missing.
 
Wayne, I have average or slightly below (who knows?)hands, and I can just engage the flat, flush mag base with my pinky........it hangs in space with the subcom Glocks..........and remember each M&P subcom comes with flat base and pinky extension base.........take your pick and you can call S&W customer service and get the base you like......they are $ 0.98 each.....hell, they just sent me four for free...
At the rate I am going may have to scrape the Glock decal off my 4Runner's cargo window.....feel like a bit of a traitor, but hey, someone builds a better mousetrap, the rest better adapt, too.
 
Wayne, The M&P 9c is a comfrontable CCP and I find it to be slimmer and better in the hand than a G27. I am waiting for mine to be delivered, I ordered night sights so I have to wait a few weeks. When it is in my hand I will sell my G27. I have a M&P 45 that I carry in a shoulder rig it has been my work gun for the past year and couldn't find a better pistol than this. So it makes sense my causual carry should be the same. My M&P 9c comes with a flat mag and a extended mag, then a rebate for $50 or two more mags, I ordered two more flast mags.
 
One thing that is a little misleading with the S&W poly guns is that the frame is thicker than the slide. This goes for the Sigmas and M&P. I wish it weren't that way.

The slide of my Sigmas is about the same thickness as my G36. Then they put that dimensioned slide on a wider frame. What a shame.
 
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