M&P15 AR Pistol Brace Removal - Instruction

[BSA1]

If buffer tube were illegal on a handgun then all AR pistols would be illegal

Which is what the President has said on several occasions the latest on February 7th during his State of the Union address when he called for a ban on semiautomatic pistols not once but twice in his speech.

And the band played on.

 

[Dave Lively]

IMHO, the entire concept of a SBR being somehow "dangerous and unusual" is quite illogical to begin with (in addition to being unConstitutional)...

As originally written the NFA would have placed all handguns in the same category as full auto machine guns. Allowing SBRs would have made the handgun ban ineffective so they were banned too. The handgun ban was removed but the SBR ban was not, probably because SBRs were so rare at the time not many people knew what they were or cared if they were banned.

But yes, it is one of the many, many illogical laws that have been enacted over the years.

 

[Dave686]

So my question is has the BATF said in writing what is non-NFA legal?

Yes, the BATF put out a nearly 300 page document explaining everything. Including why they did what they did, and comments supporting what they did that they say are from gun owners.

Laws don't usually tell you what is legal, they tell you what is illegal. However, in this document they have a whole section on what your options are to be legal.

Here is a page that has a link to the document...

factoring_criteria_for_firearms_with_attached_stabilizing_braces.pdf | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

 

[STORMINORMAN]

Make sure to download a copy as a souvenir of a failed attempt to sidestep the Bill of Rights...!

 

[N4KVE]

At the local gun show today, the ATF had a meeting with the FFL's before the show started. I'll just discuss the brace portion of the meeting.

Then they got into braces. There will be a special division who will only handle the amnesty/free SBR paperwork, so this will not slow down people applying for form 4's, or those who still want to pay the $200 for the regular form 1. 922 rules about US parts, or engraving do not apply to the amnesty form 1's, which leads me to believe they're in a different class from the $200 form 1's. He continued to say you can't have a tube with six notches on a pistol, but a smooth tube was fine.
GARY.

 

[BSA1]

Yes, the BATF put out a nearly 300 page document explaining everything. Including why they did what they did, and comments supporting what they did that they say are from gun owners.

Laws don't usually tell you what is legal, they tell you what is illegal. However, in this document they have a whole section on what your options are to be legal.

Here is a page that has a link to the document...

factoring_criteria_for_firearms_with_attached_stabilizing_braces.pdf | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

I have that document but have not read all of it. I have skipping reading much of it as it does not define what is legal or illegal but if you can direct me to the pages that do I would be most grateful.

See N4KVE post about the BATF agent comments that AR buffer tube with the notches will not be legal. Where in the regulation does it say only smooth buffer tubes are non-NFL legal?

 

[Dave686]

I have that document but have not read all of it. I have skipping reading much of it as it does not define what is legal or illegal but if you can direct me to the pages that do I would be most grateful.

You can go to "Options for Affected Persons" on page 270. After reading that you may still have questions that will require you to read the whole document, but that's a good place to start.

 

[Bozz10mm]

And the problem I refer to is people using a brace to skirt the NFA SBR rules. I knew this would happen since day one. These were invented by a one armed person to help him shoot. Not to use as a SBR by healthy people with two arms. [/url]

Why do you have a problem with this? That is the question.