m&p15 sport explodes!!!

[JaPes]

The shooter took down the video of himself trashing the Sport. He claimed the melonite coating in the chamber caused the bullet to hang up and blow up the rifle.

Well, read up on Melonite. It's a process, not really an application or coating. More commonly known as 'Salt Carbuerizing'.
He's mistaken and does not understand how the Melonite process is applied.
Unlike chroming, it does not add anything at all material-wise to the barrel. This is why Melonite barrels are generally referred to as being more accurate than a chrome lined barrel.

Someone should tell him that it's not a coating. Interesting theory he has though.

Take it from his perspective. His choice to save a few cents & shoot reloaded ammo (that he didn't reload himself) directly contributed to the sequence of events that resulted in a catastrophic failure.

I don't know of any firearm manufacturer that endorses the use of reloaded ammo or will perform warranty service for damage/failure caused from reloaded ammo.

The reloaded ammo manufacturer most likely has a indemnification clause contingent upon purchase of the ammo. "The buyer indemnifies & will not hold us responsible for ..."

He has to find some way to lay false blame on S&W to get his rifle replaced under warranty.

 

[Silversmok3]

After watching the video its clear the squib is a likely cause, given that nothing comes out of the barrel when the rifle went kaboom.

At my last Air Force qualifying visit were cautioned to stop shooting if the rifle behaved in any way out of the ordinary during CATM, and to initiate SPORTS only if the trigger released on an empty or jammed action.

Come to think of it when I was at CATM during Basic I saw an exhibit of an M-16 in three scorched pieces on the wall of the armory.Turned out the recruit previous had shot a squib load and didn't tell anyone, which resulted in the next guy in line blowing his rifle and hand to bits.They showed it to our training flight to discourage shady behavior when it came time to clean the weapons. This shooter's story ended much better than that recruit's did, and his is a private weapon.

 

[olwogo]

Reading all the posts, we need to realize, that these weapons aren't toy cap guns! When anything doesn't feel right about a shot, STOP, LOOK, and LIVE! I have been reloading for about 45 yrs. and shooting since I was 6yrs. old (I am 60 now) I have had 3 of what y'all call squibs, we always called it an obstructed barrel. They are a very serious thing to happen, and once you experience one you'll never handle a weapon quite the same. It will get your attention! Stay Alert, Stay Alive!!!!

 

[zeroed_in]

hey team! this is great feedback, a reminder of the dangers that are easily overlooked. safety is key to enjoying a day at the range and being able to get home in one piece. this video was not intened to bash the 'sport' or the persons in the video. i own a 'sport' and have had no problems. and i don't know the people in the video. just trying raise awareness...

 

[rojodiablo]

Live and learn................. Learn and live!

 

[JaPes]

Live and learn................. Learn and live!

Amen brother!

 

[JaPes]

bump for newbie reference.

 

[Wumpus]

Watching the video carefully, I'm not sure what's going on here... The first 6 rounds have a loud report, I see muzzle flash (actual fire at the flash hider), and see a casing eject. Watching full screen, you can see his trigger finger moving on each shot.

After the 6th shot, I do not see his trigger finger move, but it's clear he senses something is wrong. Did he pull the trigger on round 7? If so, I don't hear anything like a squib shot or primer ignition...

He then does a tap-rack drill and ejects round/casing #7 and the next shot is the kaboom.

 

[Kodiakco]

The nice thing, if you can call it that, is that when an AR style firearm KB's most of the energy goes down the mag well. This helps protect the shooter unlike on a bolt action where the energy can go all the way back to the stock and REALLY injure the shooter.

 

[Blondie70]

Looks to me like #7 round did not fire. He ejected it. The bullet may have been stuck in the rifling and stayed there. Chambering a new round may have shoved it forward. An effective squib or blockage. This would be one hard to figure out situation....unless you would have seen that a complete round was manually ejected. Can't see any obvious operator error. Only fault I can figure is the reloaded rounds. Not enuf crimp. I learn from this to make sure to see what I am manually pulling out of chamber .... make sure it's all there.

 

[PunisherBane]

so how does one clear a squib round and once clear, what are the chances that the barrel is undamaged

 

[JaPes]

so how does one clear a squib round and once clear, what are the chances that the barrel is undamaged

Separate the upper from the lower.

Remove BCG.

Locate a wood dowel or brass rod of appropriate diameter and length and insert it into the barrel. Using a rubber mallet, pound out the squib from breech to muzzle.

 

[Ignutz]

m&p 15 srort explodes!!!

That could not have been a "sqiub" round. The report, recoil and muzzle flash were the same as the previous round. The gun just blew up for some other reason.

 

[jws339]

just picked up 1-K 45acp. first time for reloads something to think about GREAT ADVICE!!!!!!!

 

[gunny4053]

As others have said, not the Sport, not the Melonite treatment, just the ammo and the idiot behind the trigger.

 

[uncledoggle]

Has anybody noticed that the OP was two years ago?

 

[WR Moore]

You can tap it out with a wooden dowel.
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Maybe in black powder days or if a revolver has a round barely past the forcing cone. What happens when you try this with a hardware store dowel rod on a pointed FMJ bullet is that you create a wooden wedge locking the bullet in place and requiring it to be drilled out from the other end.

This may be cringe worthy, but the proper way to do this involves a bore riding heat treated steel rod and a mallet. The upper has to be removed and butted against something solid-like a hard wood block on the floor. Applicatons of Kroil or a similar product the lubricate the extraction path is indicated.

 

[W.E.G.]

 

[JaPes]

I got a squib load at the range yesterday, shooting my S&W 27-2. I recognized it as a squib, ceased fire, unloaded the revolver, looked down the barrel and saw the bullet stuck in the barrel. I drove the obstruction out with a range rod and a mallet. I will not shoot any more reloads. This ammo was another man's reloads.

Other than commercially remanufactured ammo from a federally licensed manufacturer, it is highly inadvisable to shoot reloads that you did not reload yourself.

 

[shawn mccarver]

It is very difficult to hear a difference in the report of the round before the BOOM. On the other hand, the fact that he had to charge the rifle should have told him something.

Although it appears the rifle did have a catastrophic failure, on slow motion, it looks to me that what hit the shooter in the face was the rear sight. If any of the receiver or action parts hit the shooter, it looks to me more like they were deflected off the lane divider. Another reason to leave indoor ranges with dividers to pistols.

Posting of that video by that guy sort of reminds me of the old saying that it is "better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to speak and confirm it." Personally, I would be too embarrassed to post such a video as I would not want the whole world to know that when it comes to operation of an AR I don't know my posterior from a hole in the ground.

That whole unfortunate episode was not the fault of the gun, the melonite "coating" in the barrel or any other S&W issue. That problem was an operator error problem and an ammo problem. Unfortunately, in the age of failure and refusal to take responsibility for one's own actions, this fellow is flailing around in an effort to pin the cause on someone or something else.

 

[arizona98tj]

You'll hear from people who reload their own ammo or buy reloaded ammo getting squib fires. I have had a few myself with my pistol. Normally you know something is up because the gun wont rack fully. Can be dangerous if you try to force a round into the chamber and commence firing.

Been reloading since the '70s. Never had a squib reload and won't. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to follow the proper reloading steps to ensure this doesn't happen. If it does occur with your own reloads, the reloader is either sloppy, lazy, or both.

 

[CC83]

He did not send the rifle to S&W for warranty. Instead he said he parted it out. There must be some reason for this that he is not telling. If my rifle blows up it will be sent in for warranty, but I'm not putting reloads in it.

One thing the pro gun people never mention is how easy the AR 15 is to open up and look down the barrel... with sticking your face in front of the muzzle.

 

[CanonEOS]

I've never shot reloads, no matter the savings I'll use new ammo.

I do have a trusted contact that makes reloads for several clients and they have never had a single problem, however I can afford the new rounds.