smc1274
Member
So I was considering switching out the stock trigger with a Timney or Wilson Tactical...has anyone changed theirs out? The factory one is nice enough, but looking to drop a little pull. Any experiences or suggestions?
M&P15 Trigger or not to Trigger?
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Some of us have polished our triggers (video's on youtube) and some have replaced. I have one with a trigger I polished, Rebs081 is trying out one that I polished and I have another with a CMC trigger. I used to not believe it but the best thing you can do to a sport besides good optics is improve the trigger.
Cdog
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I've tried a lot of different triggers. You can use a set screw and spring kit to lighten the existing one pretty well, but I believe the best bang for the buck is the Rock River two stage.
I have them in every AR I own. No matter which I choose I have the same great trigger. They have proven very reliable and consistent for me and my target/hunting apps.
I simply don't care for ultra light weight single stage triggers in an autoloader. The first generation CMC weren't bad, but the new updated ones aren't as impressive to me.
For about $100.00 the RR two stage is a simple to install and use solution to creepy, heavy, and many times gritty factory FCG's.
I have them in every AR I own. No matter which I choose I have the same great trigger. They have proven very reliable and consistent for me and my target/hunting apps.
I simply don't care for ultra light weight single stage triggers in an autoloader. The first generation CMC weren't bad, but the new updated ones aren't as impressive to me.
For about $100.00 the RR two stage is a simple to install and use solution to creepy, heavy, and many times gritty factory FCG's.
Firefighter194
Member
Just swapped out my factory trigger for a Geissele SSA-E Trigger. It is like night and day and worth every penny I spent in my opinion. Groups tightened up and trigger is crisp.
Like I said, best money I've spent on upgrades as of yet!
Like I said, best money I've spent on upgrades as of yet!
I've also replaced my trigger with a Geissele SSA (not the 'E' model) and it's truly like night and day. The trigger seems to have a slightly shorter travel and about half the weight of the stock one, and much, much smoother. I haven't shot it yet, but just the dry fire feel is so noticeably better than I know it'll be great. You could go the route of polishing and replacing the hammer spring with a lighter one and it will give you a lighter trigger pull, however my concern (and the reason why I went with the Geissele) was the possibility of a light primer strike. IMHO having a full pressure spring with a lighter feel due to the design of the trigger group itself seems to be the better way to go.
I have used spring kits and polished the triggers and have yet to have a light primer strike. I have seen videos of people bending their springs and to me that was iffy but I have been very fortunate I guess. I also prefer a single stage trigger but that is just me.
JaPes
Member
Cdog, I assume you're using the RRA National Match 2-stage? I know it's a long shot, but have you ever used a RRA Varmint 2-stage? I'm trying to find anyone who is using the RRA Varmint 2-stage for their opinion.
Maddmax
US Veteran
Me Too (single stage) ! Also get out the polish and start buffing triggers. Easy enough to do your own and save some $$$.
MichiganScott
Member
I got three of the two stage match triggers and agree about bang for the buck.
Sorry JaPes, but I never tried a varmint.
JaPes
Member
TY MI Scott.
I saw that the Varmint trigger is lighter than the National Match. I just wondered how they compared.
I saw that the Varmint trigger is lighter than the National Match. I just wondered how they compared.
gunfighter48
US Veteran
I swapped out the trigger in my Sport AR with a Timney 4lb trigger. It makes a world of difference and the Timney is sweeeeet. I have also tried the Wilson at one of the LGS and it's just as good if not better than the Timney but it cost more also. Triggers are very individual items, for single stage you can't do much better the Timney or Wilson, IMO.
Cdog
Member
Mine are the Match type triggers too. I use this trigger in a bull barrel varmint rig with excellent results. It's easy to master and control.
Many hear or read "two stage" and immediately think of some old military rifle they've tried at some time. These are very modern and nothing like the old time long draggy triggers many imagine.
I've used several adjustable and non adjustable single stage triggers with mixed results and none have been my cup of tea.
I'm an old turnbolt shooter and love a lightweight single stage on them. The Jewell being my favorite triggers in the 700 Remington, but most times when I get a single stage trigger where I want it for an AR I end with occasional doubling(bump fire).
Many hear or read "two stage" and immediately think of some old military rifle they've tried at some time. These are very modern and nothing like the old time long draggy triggers many imagine.
I've used several adjustable and non adjustable single stage triggers with mixed results and none have been my cup of tea.
I'm an old turnbolt shooter and love a lightweight single stage on them. The Jewell being my favorite triggers in the 700 Remington, but most times when I get a single stage trigger where I want it for an AR I end with occasional doubling(bump fire).
NotObvious
Member
I have the JP kit that is in my VTAC (gen1) and it is light and crisp and works magic on even NATO ammo. The speed hammer is key to consistent primer ignition.
In my DPMS, I have their own 2S trigger with the JP 3,5T spring kit with zero issues. Tack driver.
I am about to put a CMMG with the adjustable take up set screws and the JP 3.5T spring kit. I got it NIB for a song and it has worked in the past with another MOE I shot before I bought my own. I will post specs after I get it installed.
In my DPMS, I have their own 2S trigger with the JP 3,5T spring kit with zero issues. Tack driver.
I am about to put a CMMG with the adjustable take up set screws and the JP 3.5T spring kit. I got it NIB for a song and it has worked in the past with another MOE I shot before I bought my own. I will post specs after I get it installed.
use a little polishing compound and a dremel when you do it works wonders. I have been using Stanley that I picked up at my reloading supply place..2.5 hours away. it is not to aggresive but does a nice job. 
(Edit) Stanley Polishing Compound, just figured out I might have not said enough
(Edit) Stanley Polishing Compound, just figured out I might have not said enough
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isaidme1
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I just installed the RRA 2 stage in mine as well and im digging it. It is just a tad bit heavier then I had hoped but it is no where near broken in yet.
