Hi there, new M&P owner and fanboy here. I just traded into a fullsize M&P40 Range Kit. I love this gun, and hate that i put off getting one for so long. The test fire date is 10-24-2011. What "gen" would it be? Is this the gen that had the issue with the slide lock? Is the slide supposed to slam shut upon inserting a full mag? Excuse the newb questions, just want to make sure everything's squared away before I put this thing through competition. Also, does anyone make upgraded/aftermarket parts such as slide locks, takedown levers, etc? I know apex tactical makes internal parts and the like. Thanks in advance and thanks for the great forum.
M&P40 Generation/Slide Lock?
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Jyezahn
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Pg 16 of the owner's manual:
WARNING: DO NOT USE EXCESSIVE UPWARD FORCE
WHEN INSERTING A LOADED MAGAZINE INTO THE
PISTOL. EXCESSIVE UPWARD FORCE COULD CAUSE
THE SLIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, CHAMBERING A ROUND AND
MAKING THE PISTOL READY TO FIRE.
WARNING: DO NOT USE EXCESSIVE UPWARD FORCE
WHEN INSERTING A LOADED MAGAZINE INTO THE
PISTOL. EXCESSIVE UPWARD FORCE COULD CAUSE
THE SLIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, CHAMBERING A ROUND AND
MAKING THE PISTOL READY TO FIRE.
Bkreutz
US Veteran
There is no "gen" to an M&P, that's a Glock deal
. S&W changes part design and integrates them into production without a "model change".If you're going to compete with the pistol you need to decide which sanctioning organization you are going to compete under and read their particular rules to determine what you can and cannot change for different divisions. It would be a shame to spend a bunch of money and time modifying a pistol only to find out you couldn't use it in a match. All the various pistol sanctioning bodies have different rules regarding equipment.
There is no "gen" to an M&P, that's a Glock deal
If you're going to compete with the pistol you need to decide which sanctioning organization you are going to compete under and read their particular rules to determine what you can and cannot change for different divisions. It would be a shame to spend a bunch of money and time modifying a pistol only to find out you couldn't use it in a match. All the various pistol sanctioning bodies have different rules regarding equipment.
You know what I meant
And I'll be competing mainly in ZSA and Uspsa. Zombie matches are pretty much run what you brung type deals. I'm pretty familiar with uspsa rules and classes. I was just asking if anyone makes aftermarket external controls because I haven't seen any in all of my googling. Only thing I see is Apex and sight manufacturers. I know 10-8 will customize my gun for me as well as a few others. I'm coming from the xd platform where we had access to every little piece and part upgraded.
Now, anyone know if aftermarket slide locks, etc are available?
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Rastoff
US Veteran
The only aftermarket part that I've heard of is a different mag release. Even that was a short run and I'm not sure it's available anymore.
So, other than Apex, I know of no places to get aftermarket parts. I'd be interested to hear of any too.
So, other than Apex, I know of no places to get aftermarket parts. I'd be interested to hear of any too.
Completely missed this reply. My full size didn't come with the manual as I got it used. So, every bit of logic I've learner about properly seating a magazine is wrong according to smith and Wesson? Wow. I'll be in trouble at matches and in a shtf situation with adrenaline pumping.
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Rastoff
US Veteran
No, not necessarily.
The idea is to seat a magazine with firm, positive force. Not to slam it in there. If you use too much force with the slide closed, as in a tactical reload, the top round can be dented. This could cause feeding issues. I've seen it happen at USPSA matches.
That's all S&W is saying in that warning.
Jyezahn
US Veteran
No worries, here's a link to the owner's manual:
M&P Pistol Owner's Manual
S&W doesn't address the possibility of denting a round when inserting the magazine with the slide closed. This addresses a slide open magazine insertion.
WARNING: DO NOT USE EXCESSIVE UPWARD FORCE
WHEN INSERTING A LOADED MAGAZINE INTO THE
PISTOL. EXCESSIVE UPWARD FORCE COULD CAUSE
THE SLIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, CHAMBERING A ROUND AND
MAKING THE PISTOL READY TO FIRE.
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Not really, unless you have your finger on the trigger (which is a DQ in USPSA anyway).
Many competitors like it that the slide closes on an adrenalin powered slide lock reload.
As you probably know, the correct speed load is to start with your index finger on the front of the mag and push the mag into lock with one smooth motion, using the heel of the hand. I've seen some inept reloads where the mag is partly inserted, and then he draws back his hand and hammers the mag home; this just wastes time and does not "lock the mag better."
USPSA CRO
Rastoff
US Veteran
That is true. I was thinking of a tactical reload where the shooter still has a round chambered and is changing to a full mag.
