M1 Carbine

One of some. Underwood-Eliott-Fisher. Lent to Germany after the war for police work. It is stamped "Bavarian Forestry Police". I shoot cast lead bullets in mine with ZERO trouble. It's BS about clogging a gas port on a gas rifle with lead bullets. Pressure is too high for that to happen. I shot oodles of cast lead bullets through a Ruger semi-auto .44 mag Deerstalker rifle. I shoot lots of cast bullets in my carbines and Garands. Garand smokes like a muzzle loader with cast bullets. Guess it's the lube.

Enjoy your carbine. You are holding a piece of history.

Sho would like to see that I-P mentioned above. Bet it would bring a wheelbarrow full of $$$.
 

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One of some. Underwood-Eliott-Fisher. Lent to Germany after the war for police work. It is stamped "Bavarian Forestry Police". I shoot cast lead bullets in mine with ZERO trouble. It's BS about clogging a gas port on a gas rifle with lead bullets. Pressure is too high for that to happen. I shot oodles of cast lead bullets through a Ruger semi-auto .44 mag Deerstalker rifle. I shoot lots of cast bullets in my carbines and Garands. Garand smokes like a muzzle loader with cast bullets. Guess it's the lube.

Enjoy your carbine. You are holding a piece of history.

Sho would like to see that I-P mentioned above. Bet it would bring a wheelbarrow full of $$$.

I don't normally shoot lead in mine but I loaded a dozen just to see what would happen. They shoot fine. If I didn't have so many FMJ bullets on hand I would just shoot coated lead.
 
I don't normally shoot lead in mine but I loaded a dozen just to see what would happen. They shoot fine. If I didn't have so many FMJ bullets on hand I would just shoot coated lead.
Around 50 years ago, I was casting 120 grain lead .308 bullets and shooting them in my carbine. I wasn't shooting thousands, maybe hundreds, but I had no carbine problems resulting from their use.
 
I too have a Standard Products Carbine, circa 1944. It bears an Underwood barrel, which is also correct for a late 1944 production SP. Everything else is SP and correct per Reich's book (which is an EXCELLENT resource by the way). Finish is excellent. Bore is excellent. Runs like a scalded dog with both FMJ and SPs.

Obviously it has undergone the de rigueur post war/Korean War refit, but the armorers curiously left the earlier push button safety and flat bolt intact. If it ain't broke... :)

I think this one sat in some Veterans closet for awhile before one of his heirs sold it to one of my favorite pawnshops. Just my opinion but I don't think it's seen much post war use. One of my favorite rifles. If you own one, you know what I'm talking about.
 

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my 1943 Std Prod is/was a hoot to shoot, haven't taken it to the range in many years..
as far as I can tell it is in original condition... no bayonet lug, flat top, push button.. etc bought from an estate of a friend's father. All the goodies too... Friend remembered shooting it as a kid, but not much... no one in the family wanted it... I just said sold when it was offered...
 

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I have seen only a few of the genuine WWII unconverted Carbines. One was bought by a friend at an estate sale around 15 years ago for several hundred dollars. I tried to buy it from him at a handsome profit but with no luck. It was a Saginaw. The other was a bringback from WWII by a friend of my father's. The latter was the first Carbine I ever fired, back in the late 1950s. I clearly remember that it had the L-shaped two position rear sight and no bayonet stud. I have seen a few others at gun shows over the years.
 
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I have seen only a few of the genuine WWII unconverted Carbines. One was bought by a friend at an estate sale around 15 years ago for several hundred dollars. I tried to buy it from him at a handsome profit but with no luck. It was a Saginaw. The other was a bringback from WWII by a friend of my father's. The latter was the first Carbine I ever fired, back in the late 1950s. I clearly remember that it had the L-shaped two position rear sight and no bayonet stud. I have seen a few others at gun shows over the years.

This is a picture of a USGI M1 carbine from my collection that is in early configuration that I believe to be original, made in 1943 by IBM.

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I have seen only a few of the genuine WWII unconverted Carbines. One was bought by a friend at an estate sale around 15 years ago for several hundred dollars. I tried to buy it from him at a handsome profit but with no luck. It was a Saginaw. The other was a bringback from WWII by a friend of my father's. The latter was the first Carbine I ever fired, back in the late 1950s. I clearly remember that it had the L-shaped two position rear sight and no bayonet stud. I have seen a few others at gun shows over the years.

This is a picture of a USGI M1 carbine from my collection that is in early configuration that I believe to be original, made in 1943 by IBM.

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I have owned about 30 or so carbines. I have examined several hundred at gun shows and for a dealer that I know. I have had one that I felt to be original, it was a Winchester. The serial number was 7,275,583, it had a bayonet lug and a rotary safety. The rotary safety brought questions to my mind, so I checked it out. I called J.C. Harrison who had written "Collecting The M1 Carbine III". Gave him the S/N and his response was "that is in the last bunch made". We went over the parts and when I came to the rotary safety he thought about it and said he would call it correct. I had bought it for $425.00 and sold it for $1800. No regrets.
 
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