M651 .22 mag..hammer block rod..

[Pappy1911]

Hi folks..new here, but not with S&Ws.
I have several of the older models including one with which I have a question;

M651 .22 mag bought new in 1984. Upon removal of the side plate, I have discovered that the hammer block rod (about 1 1/4" long) is missing.

Now, it does have the hammer rebound slide as a safety measure.

So, is the long rod really necessary or is it a Lawyer's idea of an additional safety?

Thank you.

 

[hsguy]

Pappy, welcome to the forum. The gun will function without the rod but I would get one and put it in. Don't want it to discharge if dropped. The rebound slide is not a safety device.

 

[Pappy1911]

Pappy, welcome to the forum. The gun will function without the rod but I would get one and put it in. Don't want it to discharge if dropped. The rebound slide is not a safety device.

Thanks hsguy...I contacted S&W customer service and they want me to send the gun back to them for inspection!!!! For a $5 drop-in part. Shipping is a lot of $$$$$.

The best to you..

 

[HEADKNOCKER]

I'd try an aquire one threw Numbrich or Midway & install it yourself..
The Centennials don't have this piece as they can't be cocked for SA & the hammer does rest on the rebound slide
I've also seen were guns were converted for DAO & that part is removed..
You might be able to find one by asking in the Classifieds
Gary/Hk

 

[Joni_Lynn]

Definitely call S&W and get one of those to install or send it to them and have them do it, whichever you're more comfortable with.
Since it's a safety issue S&W may even just send it to you but even if they want a small amount of $$ it's worth it.
That'll be $1000 please.

 

[Pappy1911]

Definitely call S&W and get one of those to install or send it to them and have them do it, whichever you're more comfortable with.
Since it's a safety issue S&W may even just send it to you but even if they want a small amount of $$ it's worth it.
That'll be $1000 please.

Yes, I was trying to get them to send me one as a customer courtesy.
Still waiting for a reply.

 

[Joni_Lynn]

Even if they want you to pay shipping both ways it would be much less expensive for you to pay them and see if they'll send the shipping tag.

 

[Pappy1911]

Looking at their I.P.B., it seems I can just order one. $5.30 plus shipping.

 

[Joni_Lynn]

Don't forget my $1000 fee.

 

[Pappy1911]

It's in the mail!!!

 

[rere]

The rebound slide is the primary safety device (not including common sense). The hammer block is the secondary safety device.

 

[Joni_Lynn]

Oops, welcome to the forum Pappy. Long time no see

 

[Pappy1911]

The rebound slide is the primary safety device (not including common sense). The hammer block is the secondary safety device.

That was my thinking rere.

I get the feeling that the hammer block was added at some period as a lawyer designed safety.

 

[Pappy1911]

Don't forget my $1000 fee.

I sent it by carrier pigeon...you didn't get it yet????

 

[Joni_Lynn]

Oops, was that your pigeon?
While I'm not 100% certain, I think the early guns like the first of the 1917 revolvers didn't have a hammer block but it came along while they were still in production. My 1905 4th change has one although it's an earlier design.

 

[Pappy1911]

Oops, was that your pigeon?
While I'm not 100% certain, I think the early guns like the first of the 1917 revolvers didn't have a hammer block but it came along while they were still in production. My 1905 4th change has one although it's an earlier design.

Had to have a look at my 1917 (1937 Brazilian contract) and it has a different set-up. It's a springy thing set in the side plate that extends up to around the hammer face..I guess it's a block..hard to tell.

 

[Joni_Lynn]

It would be easier to see if you'd put your octo, quad, tri, bi-focal glasses back on ( Y )

Did I mention it's good to see you here?
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[Pappy1911]

Thank you Joni....I did look up that model in an old 1939 Stoegers catalog and it's called a hammer block.

As regards to my visual of the innards, it's dark and dirty in there...I seriously need to give it a cleaning....

 

[Joni_Lynn]

See, if you'd bought black tupperware it might be dishwasher safe.

 

[Pappy1911]

See, if you'd bought black tupperware it might be dishwasher safe.

Tupperware?? Tupperware?? Blasphemy..... Dirty steel over plastic any day....I cringe......