Marlin 45-70

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So I got the bug, gotta have one.

I'm looking for opinions on the 1895SBL, this is the model that has laminated stocks, large lever loop and 6 round magazine with scout scope rail.

I looked at a GS model, seemed real nice, but I like the bigger magazine, the larger lever and with a scout rail, it appears the perfect brush gun package.

I'm planning on casting and reloading for it, so ammo cost isn't an issue really. It can be down loaded, up loaded, whatever, so the intimidation factor of the 45-70 recoil won't be a problem. Besides, I like recoil.

Do you have a Marlin? How does it shoot? Durability? Accuracy?

Let me know what you like or dislike about these.

Thanks. :)

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I don't have an 1895, but do have a 336xlr in 30-30, 336w in 30-30 and an 1894c in 357 mag, all shoot great and are easy to take care of. My xlr can shoot a ragged hole at 75 yards. Marlin makes a good rifle and stands by their product.

The Marlin levers are easy to maintain and the bolt removes very easily especialy compared to a winchester. The crossbolt safety can be a pain when you forget you put it on to cross a fence and then go to take a shot shortly afterwards. Click no bang sucks. I like the safety for unloading the rifles though. The ejector will fall out when you remove the bolt, not an issue unless you forget this and don't ensure to put it back when you reassemble the rifle.

They can be tuned for accuracy by adjusting the barrel bands and finding out what their bullet preference is. My 336w prefers federal power shoks in 170 grain and the xlr was designed and does prefer the hornady leverevolution (gummy tips). My 1894c does well with 158 gr jacketed soft points.

When compared to a Winchester, a Marlin is much more solid. I own 3 Marlins and 1 Winchester 94. I prefer the Marlins.
 
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ST, I traded a 1895SS and regretted it, great accurate rifle. Later wound up with a No3 in 45-70. Also a great shooter and a little lighter to pack.
 
I have the regular 1895, blued with 22" barrel, a new one with Ballard cut rifling. It is beyond a doubt the funnest rifle I have ever owned, it is fun shooting and reloading for it. I have had it about two months, probably put 200 rounds through it, some factory Remington 405 grain jacketed bullets (20 or so), the rest cast lead handloads from 300 to 405 grain. I got some great guidance on handlaods for this rifle from this forum.

My favorite load is a 405 grain gas check bullet at 1000 FPS or so with 12.0 grains Trail Boss powder. Easy on the shoulder, super accurate and still has lots of smash 'em. I also loaded up some Hornady 350 grain jacketed bullets at 1700 FPS, equally accurate but with enough power to get your attention.

I did find mine doesn't like bevel base bullets (they tumble and key hole), but shoots flat base and gas check bullets fine.

A friend got me enthused about casting my own bullets for handloading, he let me cast about 375 projectiles, 405 grainers with gas checks, using his equipment. Next payday, I'm buying some bullet casting gear to roll my own 45/70 bullets.

Haven't shot any game with it yet, but plan to hunt deer with it, and to utilize the rifle as an all purpose hunting and survival weapon, with it you should be able to take any game from a rabbit to elk or dangerous bears.

I looked at every Model Marlin 1895 45/70, from the Guide Gun up to the 26" barrel Cowboy Special, and decided on the 22' barrel blued 1895 as it seemed the perfect length for me sight radius wise, and has a little more weight to absorb recoil compared to the Guide Gun. My second choice would have been the stainless version with 24" barrel, but it was around $200 more....

Get one, you'll love it!
 
I bought an early Marlin .45-70 from a neighbor who had used it to kill a large brown bear in Alaska. (His wife captured the event on an 8mm movie camera. Cool footage!) It had a Redfield variable scope on it, I think it was about 1.5X5 or so. It had a very smooth action and a great trigger, the best on any lever action Marlin or Winchester I have ever felt.

It was a great rifle. I had worked up a heavy handload using 500-510 grain softpoints intended for the .458 Winchester. It was brutal to shoot. It hurt with those loads, although with 405 grain factory ammo it was a pussycat.

Being somewhat devious, it soon became my "loaner" rifle when "friends" would hit me up to borrow a gun to go deer hunting. You know the sort, "Say, I need a rifle to go hunting with next week. It seems like a lot of money to spend for something I would only use once a year. You have a lot of guns, do you have one I could borrow?"

My handloads were in once-fired factory load brass that I had tumbled. I put them back in the original box and they look like factory ammo. I would give the borrower the rifle, a box of 20 of my dinosaur killers and tell them, "You will need to check the scope's zero. It will shoot way off for you than for me. Please save me the empty brass, I hear it can be reloaded."

The first borrower was a fellow dating my little sister. Kind of a blowhard. Had a "full set of Weatherby rifles" in storage where his family lived but didn't have time to have one send for the hunt. He and my sis would go plinking with a Marlin .22 rifle he had and burn up a brick or more of .22 rounds in an afternoon, so I knew he liked to shoot. I handed him the box of shells, showed him how the lever action worked and off they went to sight it in.

The guy was a tall, skinny yahoo. He taped a 2' x 2' 100 yard sighting target up at 50 yards. Sitting down at the range's bench, resting his elbows on the carpeted bench top, sis says he dry fired a couple of clicks, then cycled in a cartridge, aimed in and "POWWWWWW!!!!" His shoulder jerked back a good foot, he nearly let the rifle hit him in the head and he looked a bit dazed. Looking at the target through binoculars, she said the shot was at the edge of the paper about 5 o'clock.

After a few minutes, he cycled the rifle and took a second shot. Sis says that it tore the dirt up in front of and below the target frames, spraying the target and backer with dirt and rocks. Lots of holes in the paper but none round or bullet-sized.

Dazed look on his face again. "Low," sis told him.

Rather than shoot again, he told her, "Close enough" and emptied the rest of the rounds manually and boxed them back up.

I saw him a couple of days later, wearing his normal beater t-shirt. His right shoulder and upper arm was a lovely purple-turning-green.

When the hunt ended 2 weeks later, he returned the cased .45-70 and the box of ammo, which still held 18 loaded rounds and the 2 empties. "Didn't see anything big enough to shoot."

I said nothing.

He never asked to borrow a gun again.

No one I loaned it to ever shot more than one round, or asked to borrow it a second time!

I sold it after buying a Browning copy of the M-1886. I should have kept it. Very good gun and a source of high entertainment!
 
Have a 1895 45-70 guide gun, 18 in tube ported. Very accurate with jacketed 300 and 350 grainers, but have not taken any game with it yet.

First and foremost is putting a good recoil pad on it, if they don't come with them now. Saves a world of hurt with medium and heavier loads..
 
My brother has an 1895 and loves it. He uses it for pigs and an occassional deer. He has a lace on recoil pad that helps (somewhat) with the recoil. I have a Guide Gun that I use for the same purpose. I like it but the recoil is pretty stiff. I am thinking of replacing the factory recoil pad with one that absorbs the recoil a little better. I am a big fan of Marlin lever guns. They usually have excellent workmanship and the ones I have owned have shown decent accuracy.
 
Thanks for the feedback.

The ghost ring sights are nice on the SBL and I can't find any overt negatives on this rifle in any of its variations. Pretty much everyone that has one likes it.

18.5" barrel, extra long magazine tube for 6 rounds + 1 in the tube, large lever, a scout scope mount. What could be better?

Going to the pusher today and check into availability.

Got to call Dillon and get the goodies for my 550 and a mould.

Question...

What weight/design mould would you suggest? TC, SWC? Weight?

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I suggest something with a flat nose and a gas check in the neighborhood of 400-420 grains. I use such a mould made by RCBS and it shoots very well in the 3 .45-70 rifles I have right now.

I went and looked. I use the RCBS mould number .45-405-FN.
 
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I've got 1895 marlins in 22 inches, 18 inches (LTD II) and 26 inches (COWBOY)and a winchester 1886 deluxe takedown in 26 inches. Its a nice rifle for field use with range limitations. I like the cowboy the best. If you want one, get it--- the only downside is wanting another
 
I have a non ported .45-70 Guide Gun. It shoots 5 shot cloverleafs at 100 yards. Recoil is a little stiff but my wife can shoot it and she is 5'4" and weighs 115 lbs. I love the little gun.

Charlie
 
I have an 1893 Marlin in .45-70 with an octagonal barrel and a half tube magazine. The action is smoother than a babies bottom and she kicks like a mule. Brought her home in July of 1973 from a gun show after shelling out $65 hard earned dollars.
 
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