ingmansinc
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They already live in his house, you know, "birds of a feather........................".Or at least spend a weekend with them in his hotel room.
Michael Vick signs with the Eagles....
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bk43
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Rightly or wrongly(wrongly IMHO) these professional athletes are held up as role models, and especially so in the black community. You'd think that would call for a higher standard of conduct off the field and not a lower one as is the case here.
Never was an Eagles fan anyway so doesn't make any difference to me.
Bob
Never was an Eagles fan anyway so doesn't make any difference to me.
Bob
ohiobuckeye
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I would have been fired from my job after being convicted of any felony and so would many other folks. In many jobs, it's a condition of employment that you not be a criminal in the past, present, or in the future.
There was a time when sports figures were looked up to, and taken as role models by our children. There are still a few worthy of that respect, but many of those clowns I would not want near any child, and it seems football has the worst of the lot. I never watch football and as a spectator sport, consider it akin to watching grass grow or paint dry, but it seems like every week or so the Cincy newspapers have stories about a couple more Bengal players going to jail. So much for sports heroes...
There was a time when sports figures were looked up to, and taken as role models by our children. There are still a few worthy of that respect, but many of those clowns I would not want near any child, and it seems football has the worst of the lot. I never watch football and as a spectator sport, consider it akin to watching grass grow or paint dry, but it seems like every week or so the Cincy newspapers have stories about a couple more Bengal players going to jail. So much for sports heroes...
Rightly or wrongly, we are getting what we pay for. So long as people continue to pay the ticket prices and buy the shirts, jersey's and jackets, the NFL or any other sports business will continue to place profits over principle.
Vick has served his time, and so long as he meets the conditions of his probation/parole and has the talent he can earn what he can.
It would be nice if he would contribute a significant portion of those earnings to the Humane Society or another worthy charity but we all know there are two chances for that happening - fat and none.
Vick has served his time, and so long as he meets the conditions of his probation/parole and has the talent he can earn what he can.
It would be nice if he would contribute a significant portion of those earnings to the Humane Society or another worthy charity but we all know there are two chances for that happening - fat and none.
Spotteddog
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My vision will never be damaged by having visible light reflected off of the puke. There's no redemption for women and animal abusers in my universe.
I have few hard and fast rules. But he violated one of the two I have.
I have few hard and fast rules. But he violated one of the two I have.
Pitdog02
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I heard a quote on ESPN today from a Philly fan.
Hide your Beagle Vicks an Eagle.
Hide your Beagle Vicks an Eagle.
gunsmith11
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does he have any dogs for sale
tyusclan
Member
I agree with all these.
He served his time, and he's a football player. He had every right to earn money playing football. If you have a personal vendetta against him don't watch him play.
Chris Brown beat Rhianna nearly to death, and he wasn't given near the grief Vick was for fighting dogs. Our priorities are WAY out of line.
Bob R
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I have seen a couple of references to human on human abuse and how we as a society are more outraged about an animal abuser getting off than a human abuser.
To a certain extent I would agree, but not totally.
An abuser of animals and children are the lowest of the low IMO. The only thing domesticated animals and children give us is unconditional love. They rely on us for companionship, love, nurturing and to keep them safe as they have limited ability to protect themselves.
For someone to violate that trust with an animal or child is reprehensible. There is no place in society where that kind of behavior should be tolerated, nor the person who does it to be tolerated. They should be shunned, much like the lepers of the 19th century.
As far as someone abusing another adult, if the person being abused stays in the relationship are they contributing to the abuse? An adult can make a decision on whether or not to stay in an abusive relationship, for the most part. Animals and children are trapped, and at the mercy of the people who should be loving and caring for them.
As far as someone who is a convicted animal abuser making it back to a position where young males look at him as a role model, that is where I have to ask, What has become of society?
bob
To a certain extent I would agree, but not totally.
An abuser of animals and children are the lowest of the low IMO. The only thing domesticated animals and children give us is unconditional love. They rely on us for companionship, love, nurturing and to keep them safe as they have limited ability to protect themselves.
For someone to violate that trust with an animal or child is reprehensible. There is no place in society where that kind of behavior should be tolerated, nor the person who does it to be tolerated. They should be shunned, much like the lepers of the 19th century.
As far as someone abusing another adult, if the person being abused stays in the relationship are they contributing to the abuse? An adult can make a decision on whether or not to stay in an abusive relationship, for the most part. Animals and children are trapped, and at the mercy of the people who should be loving and caring for them.
As far as someone who is a convicted animal abuser making it back to a position where young males look at him as a role model, that is where I have to ask, What has become of society?
bob
HOUSTON RICK
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The Philidelphia Felons and the National Felon League have agian shown their true colors. I only wish that there not some many sports addicts who will let them get away with anything.
jag312
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I certainly hope some defensive lineman doesn't sack him with so much force that if it doesn't break every bone in Vick's body, it will at least break his back so that he can never play again. It certainly would be a shame if that happened.
Vick did his time and served the sentence that was given him.
I believe that he should have the right to earn a living .....
shoveling dog sh*t and cleaning the kennels at the local SPCA.
The millions he made playing football should supplement the meager wages that he'd be paid (oh I forgot, somehow he managed to blow all those millions and now he's broke, what a shocker!)
I believe that he should have the right to earn a living .....
shoveling dog sh*t and cleaning the kennels at the local SPCA.
The millions he made playing football should supplement the meager wages that he'd be paid (oh I forgot, somehow he managed to blow all those millions and now he's broke, what a shocker!)
So where does Vick rank in this rogues gallery of NFL miscreants?
"In 1998, St. Louis Rams' defensive end Leonard Little ran a red light, while driving drunk and hit and killed wife and mother Susan Gutweiler, 47. Little pleaded guilty to a manslaughter charge, served 90 nights in a work release program and was back on the field the following season. In 2004, he was arrested again on drunk driving charges. In 2006, he was selected for the Pro Bowl.
In 2000, Baltimore Ravens' linebacker Ray Lewis pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice, and agreed to testify against his two friends, Reginald Oakley and Joseph Sweeting, in exchange, prosecutors agreed to dismiss murder charges against him. Lewis was accused of stabbing to death two people after a Super Bowl party he attended, where a fight broke out between he and two members of a rapper's entourage. While the NFL did fine Lewis for the crime, they did not issue any suspension. In 2008, Lewis received his 10th selection to the Pro Bowl.
In 2003, Chicago Bears' defensive tackle Christian Peter retired after spending six seasons in the NFL. Before being drafted, Peter was arrested eight times for various offenses while in college at the University of Nebraska, one for grabbing a woman by the throat. Peter was also alleged to have raped a freshman named Kathy Redmond multiple times, while head coach Tom Osborne helped cover up the crime, Osborne has since apologized to Redmond. .In 1993, Peter also sexually assaulted two women.
Peter was drafted by the New England Patriots, who in light of his long history of criminal behavior, and his eighth arrest just before the draft, relinquished their rights to him. Peter entered the NFL the following season with the New York Giants.
In 2005, Cleveland Browns' running back Jamal Lewis served 4 months in prison for attempting to set up a drug deal. Lewis was caught in 2004, as he tried to obtain and distribute five kilograms of cocaine. He received a four-game suspension. In 2008, Lewis rushed for 1,000 yards.
Between 2005-2007, Dallas Cowboys' cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones was arrested and/or convicted of multiple charges including disorderly conduct, public intoxication, assault, felony vandalism. In 2006, Jones was arrested for spitting in a woman's face at a Nashville nightclub. In 2007, Jones assaulted a stripper in a Las Vegas club and threatened the life of a security guard, Jones eventually pleaded guilty to lesser charges. Jones was suspended for the 2007 NFL season, but returned to the league with the Cowboys in 2008.
In 2006, Cincinnati Bengals' defensive tackle Tank Johnson was charged with aggravated assault and resisting arrest, after allegedly threatening a Chicago police officer. At the time of his arrest, Johnson was on probation for a 2005 guilty plea to carrying a concealed weapon. Johnson was also charged with further probation violations in 2006. Johnson received an eight-game suspension, after serving 43 days in jail.
In April 2009, Cleveland Browns' wide receiver Donte Stallworth pleaded guilty to manslaughter charges and received a laughable 30-days in jail after hitting and killing husband and father Mario Reyes, 59 in Miami, Stallworth was drunk at the time. Officially, Stallworth is still on suspension from the NFL. The Browns have not released Stallworth, who signed him to a $35 million contract two weeks before he killed Reyes.
During the 2007 NFL season, an incredible 21 percent of the players had arrest records."
Dog killer Michael Vick will join other felons in the NFL
Why no public outrage and wall-to-wall media coverage of these players?
"In 1998, St. Louis Rams' defensive end Leonard Little ran a red light, while driving drunk and hit and killed wife and mother Susan Gutweiler, 47. Little pleaded guilty to a manslaughter charge, served 90 nights in a work release program and was back on the field the following season. In 2004, he was arrested again on drunk driving charges. In 2006, he was selected for the Pro Bowl.
In 2000, Baltimore Ravens' linebacker Ray Lewis pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice, and agreed to testify against his two friends, Reginald Oakley and Joseph Sweeting, in exchange, prosecutors agreed to dismiss murder charges against him. Lewis was accused of stabbing to death two people after a Super Bowl party he attended, where a fight broke out between he and two members of a rapper's entourage. While the NFL did fine Lewis for the crime, they did not issue any suspension. In 2008, Lewis received his 10th selection to the Pro Bowl.
In 2003, Chicago Bears' defensive tackle Christian Peter retired after spending six seasons in the NFL. Before being drafted, Peter was arrested eight times for various offenses while in college at the University of Nebraska, one for grabbing a woman by the throat. Peter was also alleged to have raped a freshman named Kathy Redmond multiple times, while head coach Tom Osborne helped cover up the crime, Osborne has since apologized to Redmond. .In 1993, Peter also sexually assaulted two women.
Peter was drafted by the New England Patriots, who in light of his long history of criminal behavior, and his eighth arrest just before the draft, relinquished their rights to him. Peter entered the NFL the following season with the New York Giants.
In 2005, Cleveland Browns' running back Jamal Lewis served 4 months in prison for attempting to set up a drug deal. Lewis was caught in 2004, as he tried to obtain and distribute five kilograms of cocaine. He received a four-game suspension. In 2008, Lewis rushed for 1,000 yards.
Between 2005-2007, Dallas Cowboys' cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones was arrested and/or convicted of multiple charges including disorderly conduct, public intoxication, assault, felony vandalism. In 2006, Jones was arrested for spitting in a woman's face at a Nashville nightclub. In 2007, Jones assaulted a stripper in a Las Vegas club and threatened the life of a security guard, Jones eventually pleaded guilty to lesser charges. Jones was suspended for the 2007 NFL season, but returned to the league with the Cowboys in 2008.
In 2006, Cincinnati Bengals' defensive tackle Tank Johnson was charged with aggravated assault and resisting arrest, after allegedly threatening a Chicago police officer. At the time of his arrest, Johnson was on probation for a 2005 guilty plea to carrying a concealed weapon. Johnson was also charged with further probation violations in 2006. Johnson received an eight-game suspension, after serving 43 days in jail.
In April 2009, Cleveland Browns' wide receiver Donte Stallworth pleaded guilty to manslaughter charges and received a laughable 30-days in jail after hitting and killing husband and father Mario Reyes, 59 in Miami, Stallworth was drunk at the time. Officially, Stallworth is still on suspension from the NFL. The Browns have not released Stallworth, who signed him to a $35 million contract two weeks before he killed Reyes.
During the 2007 NFL season, an incredible 21 percent of the players had arrest records."
Dog killer Michael Vick will join other felons in the NFL
Why no public outrage and wall-to-wall media coverage of these players?
Smitty500Mag
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Pete Rose didn't hurt or kill anything or anybody and they ban him for life from baseball but they let this sick piece of crap back in football in less than 2 years.
Wonder why that is?
Smitty
Wonder why that is?
Smitty
2000Z-71
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Having had to put down my 13 year old Akita today, I have a feeling Lee would permanently ban me from the forum if I expressed my feelings about Michael Vick at the moment.
red14
US Veteran
As long as the NFL can make money, off of these 'characters', they will play.
Pete Rose may have cost baseball money, banned for life.
Alex Karras and Paul Hornung were both suspended an entire year, in the NFL, without pay. Their crime, betting on football.
As long as Ron Mexico makes money for the NFL, he will play.
Pete Rose may have cost baseball money, banned for life.
Alex Karras and Paul Hornung were both suspended an entire year, in the NFL, without pay. Their crime, betting on football.
As long as Ron Mexico makes money for the NFL, he will play.
afriqueart
Member
If I were an Eagles fan, I'd change allegiance. I know Mr. Vick served his time and some people preach forgiveness but, his crimes were so heinous, he will carry his burden with him 'til he dies. And in my book, he deserves to.
29Wheelgunner
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When Vick first moved to the Falcons, my daughter had the unfortunate occurrence of waiting on him at a local restaurant near Atlanta. He and this three "Thug" buddies acted like punks and disrupted the entire restaurant. Rude and loud, they acted like wanna be hoods.
He is no more than a thug, and it's too sad the the NFL has several players who are cut from the same cloth.
I have no pity on this piece of garbage.
He is no more than a thug, and it's too sad the the NFL has several players who are cut from the same cloth.
I have no pity on this piece of garbage.
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