Midway

[Simson-Suhl]

This morning, I received an email from Midway stating that 2400 and Unique powders are no longer available as they have been
discontinued. I called Alliant and they should return my call with an answer.

 

[alwslate]

Hope they are wrong about 2400 but right about Unique.

 

[tops]

Another change in my life. The only 2 pistol powders I've ever used. I'll be 83 in a few days and I've saw a lot of changes and I guess I'll make it through this one. Larry

 

[Nevada Ed]

That will be too bad, since I use a lot of Unique for full shotgun loads
for shooting trap and in the field;
as well as all my revolvers and pistol, 75% plus, loads.

 

[Muley Gil]

Hope they are wrong about 2400 but right about Unique.

Why would you want ANY powder discontinued, especially one that many Forum members use?????????????

 

[ladder13]

When I was reloading BITD, 2400 and Unique were all I used.

Unique was the perfect name for, well, Unique.

 

[Erich]

Mercy. Who'd've ever thought we'd see the day?

 

[taz666]

Plenty of fish in the sea.

 

[jcelect]

Unique?

This is a quote from the Alliant site in regard to Unique powder!

Remarks:
The world's most versatile reloading powder.

Why would they discontinue it?

 

[rockquarry]

I wouldn't believe this information unless it's confirmed.

If it's confirmed, I've found Unique very easy to replace in terms of accuracy and velocity. #2400 is much more difficult to replace, but I'm sure it can be done by experimentally inclined handloaders. I've yet to find a discontinued powder that can't be equalled in both accuracy and velocity considering the redundancy of currently marketed powders.

 

[jimmyj]

I received the same Email from Midway.
If this true what will replace Unique, Bullseye, and 2400 ?

 

[venomballistics]

I received the same Email from Midway.
If this true what will replace Unique, Bullseye, and 2400 ?

titegroup, CFE pistol and Lilgun.

 

[robertrwalsh]

Unique has been around for something like 100 + years and is almost certainly the most versatile powder out there. I grant you it has issues and is seldom the BEST powder for any particular application, but you can use it to make a useable load for very nearly any metallic handgun cartridge and many shotgun shells. IF TRUE I am glad I have a some put away.

 

[GypsmJim]

I read that Alliant has discontinued shipments of their powders "temporarily" due to the wars and shortage on nitrocellulose.

They are NOT discontinued. However, its anyone's guess when they will be back.

 

[mikerjf]

How about Power Pistol? BE-86?

I've used mainly Alliant powders but lookin' hard at W231.

 

[fordson]

There are apparently a number of powders being discontinued for sale. Midwayusa notified me this morning that they were no longer carrying RL22 and HERCO as these powders had been discontinued. There could be any number of reasons for this but it's certainly inconvenient.

 

[alwslate]

Why would you want ANY powder discontinued, especially one that many Forum members use?????????????

Just my personal opinion based on my experience with it. You like it, use all you want and can find.

 

[jem102]

Hodgdon Universal and "I" like it better.

 

[venomballistics]

Other forums are saying full removal of all alliant powdered from the market as vista shifts all focus to government contracts.
Quite plausible as it's pretty much what Ive said of Vista outdoors for at least a year now

 

[BB57]

I read that Alliant has discontinued shipments of their powders "temporarily" due to the wars and shortage on nitrocellulose.

They are NOT discontinued. However, its anyone's guess when they will be back.

This. And it's not news. It was announced about a month ago. Given the shortage of motor glycerin due to production of small arms and artillery shells for the war in Ukraine Alliant is suspending production of its canister powders for reloading in order to support production of factory ammunition.

 

[TheTinMan]

How about Power Pistol? BE-86?

I've used mainly Alliant powders but lookin' hard at W231.

I have used Winchester 231/HP-38 in 9mm Luger, 9x23 Winchester, .38 Special, .44 Special, .45 Colt, and .45 ACP. It's is great for middle of the road loads. Despite small charges, it is not position sensitive. (I've actually tested this.) However, if I want a higher velocity .45 ACP or .4r Special, I reach for Power Pistol. The 9x23 Winchester loads were just for practice ammo. For 9mm Luger I switched to AA #7 a long time ago … so long I don't remember exactly why but I'm guessing it was accuracy. (I do have notes somewhere that would tell me, but I stopped bothering to reload 9mm.)

The only powder I have more of than W-231 is Hodgdon 4895, and that's because rifle cartridges use so much more powder.

 

[Huskerguy]

Interesting. I stocked up on 2400 a few years ago thinking I would shoot a lot of 357 but ended up shooting more 38's.

 

[robertrwalsh]

There is a LGS with a fair supply of many powders on the rack for reasonable prices. Maybe I should buy some and stash it? No Unique or Bullseye but plenty of 231 and BE86. Also some Sport Pistol.

 

[rwsmith]

I think that Alliant...

...wants BE-86 to be the "powder for everything" in a pistol. Fortunately I am well stocked up on powder and on load data.

 

[raljr1]

I stopped in a little roadside shop recently that has quite a bit of powder in stock. I am sure I saw unique on the shelf. I may have to swing by there again and buy up what he has.

 

[glenwolde]

Sadly, I think Hodgdon's Universal may suffer the same fate. That was what I began using in lieu of Unique. CFE Pistol or Win244 may be the replacements. Universal is right between those two.

I think the "old" powders will be giving way to the "new" powders. The process has changed.

 

[gwpercle]

You guy's know how the dance goes ...
Create a shortage ... Double / Triple the Price ...
And Back it comes at the new price ...

The shortage / price increase two step .

They can do the dance really well now !
Gary

 

[venomballistics]

...wants BE-86 to be the "powder for everything" in a pistol. Fortunately I am well stocked up on powder and on load data.

Nah .... it's closer to Vista outdoors Kinetic group wanting to shift EVERYTHING to government contracts, leaving us high and dry.
If it didn't just happen, bet that it will

 

[venomballistics]

Sadly, I think Hodgdon's Universal may suffer the same fate. That was what I began using in lieu of Unique. CFE Pistol or Win244 may be the replacements. Universal is right between those two.

I think the "old" powders will be giving way to the "new" powders. The process has changed.

that's part of the story. Hodgdon is not without some back office drama. The factory that makes the clays line (including universal) wither blew up or got retooled for cannon propellant. I've heard both.
What Hodgdon seems to be trying to do is open up options for these sorts of failures. It's kinda working

 

[smoothshooter]

Mercy. Who'd've ever thought we'd see the day?

In these times, we see things almost every day we never thought we would see.
Almost all of them bad.
The frequency of them seems to accelerate every week, in all facets of our life.