Midway

I don't use an inordinate amount of smokeless, my recent concern was the loss of Hodgdon's Black Powder interest: Goex. This led to a major shortfall in what I shoot the most of, fortunately they sold to the Estes Corp. Those of us that grew up playing with solid fuel rocket models are familiar with the Estes name, I have to assume that there are other interests in solid rocket fueled projectiles that keeps Estes in business. In the meantime we were forced to purchase from the Germans (Schuetzen) and the Swiss (Swiss). I have been using Swiss for years and use 1-1/2 F Swiss in nearly everything I shoot from Smoothbore musket to .45 target rifle, not to mention 45/70, 45/90, 50/70, .43 Spanish cartridge rifles. Swiss 3F is my preferred cartridge pistol powder as well as what my 38/55 Sharps likes.
I do have many uses for 2400, Unique, Bullseye and Red Dot along with H-110/W296. I just don't shoot enough of it to be concerned about a sudden loss, my cache is enough to last my lifetime or so I like to think. I feel for a few friends that shoot action pistol, they have been shorted on primers, etc. in the past and I helped where I could. Unless I get a wild hair to start shooting F-Class or something of little current interest I think I'm OK and will be able to help out friends where I'm flush. A friend of mine just offered a brick of large rifle match primers for which I was thankful as I have been in a dry spell or at least unwilling to pay the exorbitant price retailers are asking. I know a few action pistol guys that have been paying out the nose for small pistol primers, ridiculous prices. If all else fails I guess I can always go back to the beginning of my retirement years and dust off the old leather working gear. I am getting back into more woodworking than I thought and even bought another lathe after selling the last one twelve years ago.
Gotta stay flexible...."Bend like the willow or snap like an oak" Lao Tse.
 
You guy's know how the dance goes ...
Create a shortage ... Double / Triple the Price ...
And Back it comes at the new price ...

The shortage / price increase two step .

They can do the dance really well now !
Gary

Maybe there's some truth in that. The last time I saw Unique offered was maybe 4 months ago at $56 per pound and the vendor sold out. I procrastinated and got nothing.
 
I will not like it if the rumors are true. I have been using Bullseye, Unique and 2400 since they came in paper cans with a Hercules on them. Unique, most especially, lived up to its name and made usable loads in almost any pistol cartridge, and the best loads in several. Still lamenting the loss of SR4759 for reduced loads in rifle cartridges. Hopefully my current stash of powders will last as long as I do.
 
When I started reloading 50 years ago, Bullseye, Unique and 2400 were all you needed for all handgun shooting. And they were in good supply available everywhere.

Fast forward 25 years. I moved to a locale in which Alliant powder was just not regularly available at the any of the LGS. Hodgdon was readily available. So I switched to Hodgdon. There's no real substitute of the versatility of Unique (weird). But Titegroup, HS-6 and H110 handle everything (with some HP-38/W231 thrown in ).

The real tragedy is the sudden irrelevance all the useful loading data from decades and generations, especially for cartridges that are no longer deemed "worthy" of load development except as cream-puff noise makers. You could always find data for any handgun cartridge using Bullseye, Unique and/or 2400, and at pressure levels that made the cartridges useful.

Most of these ammunition companies don't care about reloading. They would rather sell you high profit loaded ammo. Reloading components were sold to take care of excess capacity. Now, they don't have to do that, they sell all the ammo they make.
 
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I'm guessing that Vista Outdoors/Kinetic is focused on government contracts. From a business perspective and given the concept of non-stop wars, it's probably a good financial move.

Nothing like making yourself an ICBM target for the bottom line!
 
I started out with Hercules Bullseye when I reloaded with a Lee Loader on my kitchen table. Bullseye was THE powder for bullseye pistol shooters for generations. I stuck with Hercules/ Alliant powders when knowledgeable gun writers, like Elmer Keith, recommended 2400 and Unique. I'll probably switch to Titegroup, H110, HP38 and maybe Accurate #2 and #5 when I run out of Alliant powders. A lot of bullet casting companies are going under, too and the prices are expected to skyrocket. Looks like I'll be dusting off my bullet casting equipment that I was considering selling!
 
Once it gets cooler I’ll start casting again. Sort and size projectiles then try some new powders and may use some Unique and Bullseyes for few 100 rounds. Really disappointed that the standard powders are going away.
 
Red and Green Dot are reasonable substitutes for Bullseye if loading mild handgun loads. Not quite as fast burning as Bullseye but close.
 
I have an unopened 4lb jug of 2400. The only thing I use it for is loading for my 44 Inland. I've been looking for a .357 lever Winchester but none in stock where I live. I don't buy anything on the internet anymore. Too much of a hassle with the transfers. I'll find one someday locally.

Sorry to hear it's gone. :(
 
I bought a 1 lb. can of 'Herco' at an LGS that carries just a smidgen of reloading supplies. They had nothing else I could remotely use.....
IIRC, it's been discontinued, but pretty sure some of my older manuals will show some usable data for it in my main handgun calibers - 9mm, .38/.357. .10mm, .41, .44 Spl/Mag, .45 ACP/.45 Colt.
It was <$25, so sort of a deal.
 
I loved 2400 when casting and shooting 44 mag. When it got hard to find I was recommended accurate number 9 as an alternative. I picked up a couple pounds but they are still un opened. As far as unique , I do have a few pounds left. It did do it all, but there are others. It just takes a couple different powders to cover the same calibers.
 
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