Might try a Sig.

Anyhow, I flipped the mag release to facilitate my lefty IWB carry and have learned that this gun seems to shoot best with 124-gr +P ammo. Federal HST is what I'm keeping in it, as it did slightly better than Remington Golden Sabers. (Federal's 124-gr +P HST load did M 1124 fps/S 46.27/D 19.23, about 1" low and a decent group. Range was 5950'>sea level and c. 83 degrees F and c. 40% humidity.)


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At what distance did you shoot that group?
 
Trained and carried several S&W revolvers and autos. Personally purchased S&W autos over the decades. I tried Sig autos just to see the difference. Both quality. My last purchase was a Sig P320 Sub Compact. For me, if and when the sky falls, the sun burns out or we get invaded, I’m grabbing my small 320 and medium sized P229. Someone else can carry my Smith’s. Try the 320, it’s not for everyone, but you’ll never know unless you put some rounds down range. All these posts, including mine are just opinions.
 
I went with the P320 Carry in 40 S&W due to slightly longer grip. Fit better. Had the rework(what we call a recall in the appliance arena) and no issues.
 
I bought one of the early P320 compacts. It had good Sig night sights and an excellent trigger. Trigger wise it was better than most of the striker fired handguns I own or have owned, but not quite as good as my PPQs or VP9s. It was better than my 2.0 compact is, even though that gun's trigger is a big improvement over the three previous 1.0 M&Ps I used to own.

I only had two problems with the P320. The original sights put the point of impact silly high at even ten yards. Called Sig and they sent a shipping label but said if it didn't shoot unacceptably high for them then they would charge for a sight change and the shipping. Fair enough. Less than two weeks later I got it back with a note that said they had changed the sights under warranty with no charge for the sights or shipping. Pretty good customer service.

Problem two was that it had the original "fat" Sig trigger which pinched a big bloody blister on my trigger finger in less than a box of ammo. I installed an Apex flat trigger myself and it fixed the problem. I also found that I like a flat trigger. Sig has since changed the trigger and made a few other improvements to the gun. I like that they listened to their customers and made running changes based on that feedback. Glock certainly doesn't do that well and the changes they do make are glacial slow in coming.

I kept the 320 for over a year and ran 1900+ rounds of all kinds of mixed ammo through it. Not one single bobble of any kind. I shot it a bit more accurately than any of my multiple Glock 19s of various generations which I have owned since that model was first introduced.

Eventually, like every other Sig I've owned, I just did not form a real bond with the 320 and sold it. This was before the commotion about the drop safety issue surfaced. Mine was an excellent shooting and very reliable handgun. From what I have read the new ones are even better. I would have no hesitation about buying another Sig P320 if I were currently interested in one.
 
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I have a 320RX. I like it very much! I did carry a Glock 19. It is now in the safe!!
Great trigger and is as accurate and reliable as the Glock and my M&P 45 and my Shield 9mm.
I would like to have the red dot on all my guns. It is easier to pick up for my aging eyes than the iron sights.
 
I have nothing but bad things to say about American made sigs.

I have a new production P210 target and it eats all other autos I have for breakfast lunch and dinner...
 
The P320 is awesome, the trigger is better.
 
I don't own any Tupperware guns, but I've had and have several sigs in all stainless and absolutely love them for their fit, finish and accuracy. Great guns, but I have read and seen some negative reviews on some of their plastic guns, be leary and do research on those.
 
At what distance did you shoot that group?
10 yards. I threw in the knife blade to give myself an indicator of group size, but you I'm afraid you all will have to just look at the full size of the bullet holes left as the JHPs passed through.
 
Pachmayr recently began making a finger rest base plate for Sig P250/320 sub compact magazines.
 

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I shot a friends full sized 320 and it shot well, no issues. Seemed to be more ergonomic that my G19 but couldn't do any more or less than the Glock.

As far as Sigs in general I prefer mine from the early 1990s. I've a pair of P228s and a P220, all West German.
 
You might think it lipstick on a pig, but for me, one very important factor to keep in mind when deciding between a SIG and another brand is that Hogue makes some very handsome grip panels for many of the SIG models. Case in point is this P226:

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On the other hand, if I lived in a jurisdiction that allowed carry permits, I would likely care less about looks and focus on factors such as functionality, reliability, capacity, accuracy and concealability.
 
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S&W and Sig both make excellent pistols, both of my Sigs (220 in .45 and a 229 DAK in 9mm) have excellent triggers and are extremely smooth, once you get used to the high bore axis it really is smooth sailing. I've shot the 320 they have for rent at the local range and I really liked it

My only gripe with my M&Ps (FS .40 PD trade in and FS 9mm) is the trigger which does take some getting used to, I think Glocks have far better triggers

Another one to look at would be the CZ P07 (DA/SA) or the P10c (striker)

In the end I wouldn't feel like I was at a disadvantage with any of the pistols I mentioned, I like them all (that may be my problem)
 
Yes, we are insufferable. Butt some of us are open minded, willing to experiment. With a little gentle massaging, the single action trigger if the Sig will approach that of the 1911, of which I have four.
Hahaha I have a P225, a SigPro, and the P250. By the way, I edited my response earlier waaay down in favor of civility.

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We adopted the P320 at the department just before I retired. We had been carrying Glocks for about 25 years. I had each officer test fire the P320 in both 9mm & .40 S&W and turn in a survey. Of those who stated a preference between the SIG and Glock, the Sig won out by a more than 2-1 margin. The chief high points stated for the SIG were, ergonomics (specifically the grip), trigger quality, and sights. Most demonstrated better accuracy with the SIG. Unfortunately for me the trigger recall took place just before they were issued so I retired with the Glock I had been issued. The SIG has now been issued to department members.
 
I am curious to see how the P320's hold up compared to Glock's in the long term. I think it's likely that the army probably will abuse them even more than your department will.
We adopted the P320 at the department just before I retired. We had been carrying Glocks for about 25 years. I had each officer test fire the P320 in both 9mm & .40 S&W and turn in a survey. Of those who stated a preference between the SIG and Glock, the Sig won out by a more than 2-1 margin. The chief high points stated for the SIG were, ergonomics (specifically the grip), trigger quality, and sights. Most demonstrated better accuracy with the SIG. Unfortunately for me the trigger recall took place just before they were issued so I retired with the Glock I had been issued. The SIG has now been issued to department members.

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I am curious to see how the P320's hold up compared to Glock's in the long term. I think it's likely that the army probably will abuse them even more than your department will.

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That is the unanswered question isn't it? While I carried the Glock for 23 years I never bonded with it. It has proven to be very reliable and durable. The longevity of the SIG remains unproven. Only time will tell.
 
I have seven Sigs, all in .40S&W, with a few .357 Sig bbls. I only have three S&W autos in .40 S&W, and two revolvers, A 686, and a Mod 57.
Next range trip I will bring my Sig 320, and my M&P 40 to compare them.
Don't hold your breath, I 78 years old and I can barely make it from the parking lot to the liquor department of Stater Bros. liquor department.
Unfortunately, I live in the "Democratic Peoples Repiublic of Kommiefornia"
and I can't buy the hand guns I need!

Time to move out of that place.
 

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