Missouri Bullet Co. experience

Do the same thing with the Keith .45 Colt bullet.
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Do the same thing with the Keith .45 Colt bullet. Wink Another hint Big Grin


"Dyin' ain't much of a livin' boy"-The Outlaw Josey Wales

We already have it. We call it the "Cowboy #9". 250 grain (nominal) SWC. Available from our website.

Brad
 
I saw those. I was referring to Lyman mold 452424
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The one you have posted there is a bevel base, and several of my .45's won't shoot any bevel based design worth a hoot. A couple will though.
 
Well,after reading of the experiences of others here I placed an order Tuesday for some Cowboy #1 loads from Missouri Bullet. They arrived in the mail today!!! Two days from ordering them to having them! Outstanding service!! Now all I have to do is find the time to do some reloading.
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Originally posted by gpe55bud:
Well,after reading of the experiences of others here I placed an order Tuesday for some Cowboy #1 loads from Missouri Bullet. They arrived in the mail today!!! Two days from ordering them to having them! Outstanding service!! Now all I have to do is find the time to do some reloading.
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Well, since you were a new customer, we had to make you serve a 1-day probationary period.

:-)

I see that you are retired USAF, so you should email us and we will explain the discount program we have for retired military folks.

Best,

Brad
 
Hi guys. I was impressed after reading this so I put in a order too. The service was great, order shiped the next day. Three days later they were here. They are in great shape, and the quality is great too. Haven't loaded any of them yet but it won't be long. The blue dot powder I have and cold weather has me a little gun shy.
 
Sorry boys, but I just went to the Missouri Bullets web site. They may have good customer service, but they DON'T carry Keith bullets! Companies that call a bevel-base semi-wadcutter a "Keith Bullet" should be sued by the Keith estate for putting Elmer's name on an inferior product. Missouri Bullets, like other similar companies, sell these bevel base Keith-wannabes because they can buy big gang moulds that drop these bullets like water through a hose, which maximizes their profits. I'll NEVER use a bevel base bullet in one of my guns again! Bevel-base bullets are a creation of the devil that allow hot gasses to get between the bullet base and your bore. This melts the edges and deposits lead in your bore. This is probably why Missouri Bullets also sells the Lewis Lead Remover. If you shoot their bullets, you're going to need it! I can't tell from their photos what kind of lube they use, but it looks like that stuff with the consistency of vulcanized rubber. If lube isn't soft, it doesn't work. With 40 years of experience reloading, I know what the heck I'm talking about.

If you want REAL Keith bullets, go to LEADHEADS bullets: http://www.proshootpro.com
I've bought bullets from this guy for several years. He can size them to any size the mould allows, and you won't need a Lewis Lead remover to clean the crap out of your gun. Leadheads also sells LBT style bullets in both plain base and gascheck form.

I hate to rain on your parade, but this is my opinion. If you like the product Missouri bullets produces, have at 'em, but realize there is better stuff out there.
 
I shoot Leadhead 270wfn 44's. Great bullets. But, bevel base bullets load much faster in my progressive press. Also, MBC bullets only cost a fraction of Leadhead prices. All in all, two out of three ain't bad.
 
For the price difference, I'll take the Missouri Bullets. It doesn't take that long to get the lead cleaned out.
 
If people are happy with their product, that's fine by me. HOWEVER, they STILL don't have a right to call it a Keith bullet unless it has three equal driving bands, a flat base, a square shoulder.and a square bottom lube groove. People need to know what they are getting when they see the Keith name used.
 
Dang, Whelenshooter, why don't you tell us all how you really feel!. First off, I didn't see anywhere that Missouri Bullet said they had Keith Bullets. Nowhere on the website did I see any mention of KEITH bullets. They said Keith Style Bullets. To me that means similar in design. I've been shooting bevel base LSWC for years and have never had any significant leading problems. I usually shoot at less than 1000 fps so that may be why. This is the first time I have ordered from Missouri Bullet and I was extremely pleased with their service and their product. I look forward to using many more of their products!!
 
Big Bump for MO Bullets

Recently I've been shooting a big mess of Missouri 200 SWC and 225 Flatheads. Both these rounds shoot POA over 4.8 grains of Bullseye in my 1911. They shoot super accurately at 25 and 100 yards. The MO SWC profile is different from the Penn profile, but different doesn't mean bad, and the MO SWC shoots as well as the Penn in all cases.

As for that twaddle about leading from a bevel base bullet... Poppycock! My gun gets a fluffy black coat from the Bullseye, but my bore stays clean after 500 rounds of Penn or MO bevel base SWC or TC.

Penn's lead time has gotten to be a bit long, and Penn's bullets have started showing up with big thick casting lines on them. As of now, it's Missouri Bullets for me.
 
I have never had the occasion to speak to anyone there. I just place my order on the internet and get the bullets in a very few days. Never had any problem with any of them. If I am going to buy lead bullets, it will be from MBC.
 
Another fan of MBC here. I like the prices and super fast delivery. I have told others about them also.
 
Penn's lead time has gotten to be a bit long, and Penn's bullets have started showing up with big thick casting lines on them. .

That mold set as well as several others have been retired and replaced with new sets. Something that happens with all commercial molds after a period from wear and tear.
Our time frames have improved quite bit over the past year with the relocation and addtion of the new foundry. High demand right now has caused some long delays on specialty bullets but most of those are just about caught up now.
 
Very happy with Missouri Bullet Co. Another satisfied customer here. You guys will hear from me again when I run low!
 
I found MBC here on the forum last year, and ordered from them based on everyone's good reviews. Having ordered .38, .45, .40 and 9mm several times, I can tell you I am very pleased. Great products, shipping is fast and correct, and you can't beat their prices (unless you cast them yourself!).
 
Penn's lead time has gotten to be a bit long, and Penn's bullets have started showing up with big thick casting lines on them. .

That mold set as well as several others have been retired and replaced with new sets. Something that happens with all commercial molds after a period from wear and tear.
Our time frames have improved quite bit over the past year with the relocation and addtion of the new foundry. High demand right now has caused some long delays on specialty bullets but most of those are just about caught up now.

I had the same issue with Penn and cast lines a couple of years ago. I emailed the company, talked with the owner, and to his credit, he checked the molds, fixed them, and sent me a new box of excellent bullets. Plus, told me to enjoy shooting up the bad ones on him.
 
Missouri also offers club discounts... It only takes an email to get registered and gets you 5% off your orders.

They are a GREAT company!!!
 
I can't say anything bad about Penn bullets on this forum or he will cry and lie to management and get me yelled at again. :rolleyes:
 
I can't say anything bad about Penn bullets on this forum or he will cry and lie to management and get me yelled at again. :rolleyes:

The only lying being done here is by you. You were told before about this by the mods before but apparently you decided that wasn't good enough for you.
I forwaded all the PMs to the moderator to show your lies then and and the only person lying now is you again.
I did not "cry" over your lies I just dealt with them and the mods removed your posts. Go cry over that one.
 
Mr Palermo (Penn Bullets)

I do not not what exchanged between you and ArchAngel but I myself had difficulties with you and your company myself some time back. So did many others over on another forum which I will not mention, so I know things did not work out well for me and those others.

This thread was about MBC and somehow you manage to find it and post the same "double speak" as you have before. Maybe things are better, maybe not. I wish you success but don't play like nothing happened in the past. To me you are a vender trying to promote your company without actually be a registered vendor or sponsor.
 
Mr Palermo (Penn Bullets)

I do not not what exchanged between you and ArchAngel but I myself had difficulties with you and your company myself some time back. So did many others over on another forum which I will not mention, so I know things did not work out well for me and those others.

This thread was about MBC and somehow you manage to find it and post the same "double speak" as you have before. Maybe things are better, maybe not. I wish you success but don't play like nothing happened in the past. To me you are a vender trying to promote your company without actually be a registered vendor or sponsor.

Yes, I am a vendor and why this 2008 thread was resurected is beyond me BUT the fact is that my company was mentioned about a quality issue and I responded to the comment there.
I don't "double speak" as you have just done. I tell it straight and if people can't deal with that then that is their problem. I also notice that when Missouri posted here you did not take them to task for not being a sponsor or a registered vendor so what I am I to make of that? In addtion neither of those things are a requirement for my posting here and since I don't see that you are an administrator what concern is it of yours?

Having been in business over 30 years I, just like any other company have had my share of problems with customers over the years. I don't pretend that there wern't problems in the past and that there won't be in the future. If you run a business,any business then problems with customers is a fact of doing business. It is how you deal with such problems is the important issue. (Is that straight forward enough for you?)

I deal with such problems the best I can( the proof of that is right here in this thread with SMSGT that I resolved.) No one is perfect and that includes Missouri bullets.
They too have had their share of problems with customers but overall they have a very good reputation as do I. The number of satisfied customers far exceeds those that haven't been satisfied. If that wasn't true then I would not have survived and flourished and the same holds true for others.
The country is littered by many cast bullet manufactuers that are no more.

What I can't abide is those Like Archangel CD who continually posts negative comments every chance they get when they see my companies name being mentioned because they can't let it go even when they have been told not to do so.

I find it impossible to believe that customers can expect perfection from any supplier. I see threads all the time about many suppliers (and not just bullet suppliers) that give praise and damnation to the same company. I know that I try my very best to deal with each complaint when they occur. Sometimes I succeed and sometimes not because some customers just won't let you make it right for them no matter what and I can't do anything about that.

I am not going to abide drive by attacks and not respond. The number of people who responded to me personally after the issue on the other forum was overwhelming in their support after the incident. Your claim that there was many is false as in fact it was a small group of a few people. The fact that I did not recogonise the organised attack against me and the company at first was due to my inablity to see it for what it was. That will not happen again.

The bottom line here is that as long as God is willing to let me I intend to keep going and to all the customers that have made the company as great as it is today I say Thank You.
 
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In my last 2 calls to MBC I asked for some guidelines on a specific bullet they make because I was having trouble finding a load. Both times I was told they have no load data for there bullets. And worst was no one there reloads.

They make a great product,, but if they do not reload how do they test their bullets?
 
I don't think there are many bullet makers online that supply load data too.
I'm sure it's a liability thing, everyone is ready to file a lawsuit these days.
 
Missouri cast bullets have been great to me. I too would like to see Some of Elmer's true design for 44 and 357.
 
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