shouldazagged
Absent Comrade
Susie, that wonderful trigger is not an anomaly. The sweetest trigger I've ever encountered on any firearm was on a 1970 15-3. Absolutely splendid revolver.
model 15 help please?
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susieqz
Absent Comrade
does wonderful- triggeritis extend to model 14s too?
i' thinking all my future purchases should be older s&ws, if i can get this kinda trigger.
i' thinking all my future purchases should be older s&ws, if i can get this kinda trigger.
StakeOut
US Veteran
I like the 6" Model 14-2 and 14-3 6" guns Target Masterpieces almost as much as the 4" Model 15 Combat Masterpieces.
The K frame Models 14 and 15 are excellent shooters but next you should try an N frame.
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susieqz
Absent Comrade
which n frame?
Here's a pic of Suzie's gun:
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susieqz
Absent Comrade
thank you patriot.
i am still not finding wood grips in this shape.
s&w has something like them, but $82 n it looks like plywood.
kinda high for plywood.
i am still not finding wood grips in this shape.
s&w has something like them, but $82 n it looks like plywood.
kinda high for plywood.
Groo01
Member
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Groo here
Sue,
If you really are serious about target shooting and you like the shape of the rubber grip look for Roper grips.
One of the best is Herrett [http://www.herrettstocks.com]
You send them a drawing of your hand and the grips are made to fit YOU.
Groo here
Sue,
If you really are serious about target shooting and you like the shape of the rubber grip look for Roper grips.
One of the best is Herrett [http://www.herrettstocks.com]
You send them a drawing of your hand and the grips are made to fit YOU.
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susieqz
Absent Comrade
groo, i went there but got a CORRUPTED FILE message.
if you look at my pic, those are really like SAA plow handle grips, i think.
i'd like to duplicate them exactly, but in pretty wood.
a gun with a great trigger deserves wood, but i'll keep the ugly rubber if i can't get the same shape.
i can sand off any checkering if i have to.
if you look at my pic, those are really like SAA plow handle grips, i think.
i'd like to duplicate them exactly, but in pretty wood.
a gun with a great trigger deserves wood, but i'll keep the ugly rubber if i can't get the same shape.
i can sand off any checkering if i have to.
The empty chamber thing...
The keeping the empty chamber applied to single action guns. Modern, good quality double action guns have safety features built in. Even newer single actions have some hammer stops to prevent the firing pin from hitting the primer if the gun is dropped.
Beat up doesn't matter, it's what's inside that counts.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Smith and Wesson revolvers. I'll wager that you won't stop here.
The keeping the empty chamber applied to single action guns. Modern, good quality double action guns have safety features built in. Even newer single actions have some hammer stops to prevent the firing pin from hitting the primer if the gun is dropped.
Beat up doesn't matter, it's what's inside that counts.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Smith and Wesson revolvers. I'll wager that you won't stop here.
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susieqz
Absent Comrade
i doubt i'll stop.
this isn't the most expensive gun i bot, but it is the finest quality.
i'm in love with this trigger.
this isn't the most expensive gun i bot, but it is the finest quality.
i'm in love with this trigger.
The empty chamber thing...
The keeping the empty chamber applied to single action guns. Modern, good quality double action guns have safety features built in. Even newer single actions have some hammer stops to prevent the firing pin from hitting the primer if the gun is dropped.
Beat up doesn't matter, it's what's inside that counts.
I'll also bet that it's one of those 'carried a lot, used little' guns and the problems are only cosmetic. I'm not sure what qualifications are for guards, but shooting an S&W only makes it better.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Smith and Wesson revolvers. I'll wager that you won't stop here.
The keeping the empty chamber applied to single action guns. Modern, good quality double action guns have safety features built in. Even newer single actions have some hammer stops to prevent the firing pin from hitting the primer if the gun is dropped.
Beat up doesn't matter, it's what's inside that counts.
I'll also bet that it's one of those 'carried a lot, used little' guns and the problems are only cosmetic. I'm not sure what qualifications are for guards, but shooting an S&W only makes it better.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Smith and Wesson revolvers. I'll wager that you won't stop here.
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susieqz
Absent Comrade
i just found out my cute gun is almost new!
it was built in 1980.
now that i have empty shells i'm dry firing it.
this trigger almost makes me swoon.
this is one quality machine.
i've been just shooting 6 rounds/day, mostly to have empties.
i haven't sighted it in on paper, but i'm hitting the 4' gong at 25 yards
tomorrow i sight it in n test ammo.
what is this thing about not shooting plated n lead?
i have both.
should i clean it after shooting copper?
or after lead?
tomorrow i can tell you about group size but don't laugh. i already told you i can't do iron sights.
see, i shoot a few rounds every day but sundays are for fun. that's when i shoot til i tire.
by the way, this cylinder turns backward.
that surprised me.
it was built in 1980.
now that i have empty shells i'm dry firing it.
this trigger almost makes me swoon.
this is one quality machine.
i've been just shooting 6 rounds/day, mostly to have empties.
i haven't sighted it in on paper, but i'm hitting the 4' gong at 25 yards
tomorrow i sight it in n test ammo.
what is this thing about not shooting plated n lead?
i have both.
should i clean it after shooting copper?
or after lead?
tomorrow i can tell you about group size but don't laugh. i already told you i can't do iron sights.
see, i shoot a few rounds every day but sundays are for fun. that's when i shoot til i tire.
by the way, this cylinder turns backward.
that surprised me.
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susieqz
Absent Comrade
well, i wanted to give you guys a range report, but i can't. too much shooter error to evaluate the gun's accuracy or the test ammo.
i was all over the paper at 25 yards.
i couldn't move to 15 yards because my rest is a rain barrel n i had it full of irrigation water so i couldn't move it.
i'm not weeping n gnashing my teeth tho. the same thing happened with my super accurate 22/4, til i got a red dot.
i just can't use iron sights.
i sure wish somebody would explain to me this thing about mixing jacketed ammo n lead.
which one can't follow the other?
what happens if i mix them?
i have some of each.
i painted my front sight with red nail polish. that didn't help.
any other tricks to let me use iron sights til i can afford a dot?
i was all over the paper at 25 yards.
i couldn't move to 15 yards because my rest is a rain barrel n i had it full of irrigation water so i couldn't move it.
i'm not weeping n gnashing my teeth tho. the same thing happened with my super accurate 22/4, til i got a red dot.
i just can't use iron sights.
i sure wish somebody would explain to me this thing about mixing jacketed ammo n lead.
which one can't follow the other?
what happens if i mix them?
i have some of each.
i painted my front sight with red nail polish. that didn't help.
any other tricks to let me use iron sights til i can afford a dot?
Double-O-Dave
US Veteran
Hi Susie:
Here are a few ideas for you:
* if possible, have an experienced shooter fire your revolver to see if the sights are regulated, or need adjusting.
* If I recall correctly, the revolver left the factory regulated for standard velocity 158 gr. bullets. You should be able to find practice ammo with that bullet weight fairly easily, and you should try and stick with at least one bullet weight/type until you gain proficiency.
* Firing just 6 rounds per day is a very slow way to learn how to fire your revolver proficiently. But, if that's what's available, then I would advocate firing each shot slowly, and single action (cock the hammer) only. Try for quality for each shot...as if that shot was the most important one in the world.
* I'd recommend shooting much closer to your target - even if it means you don't get to use a rest. I'd suggest shooting from about 3 yds. to begin with, and then moving to 7 yds., and then 10 yds. Once you can make good hits on the target at 10 yds., you should be ready to move back to about 15 yds.
* If possible, try to find a local gun range or club and become a member. I'm sure they either have programs for new shooters, or you could find a member who would be willing to help you out.
Best of luck,
Dave
Here are a few ideas for you:
* if possible, have an experienced shooter fire your revolver to see if the sights are regulated, or need adjusting.
* If I recall correctly, the revolver left the factory regulated for standard velocity 158 gr. bullets. You should be able to find practice ammo with that bullet weight fairly easily, and you should try and stick with at least one bullet weight/type until you gain proficiency.
* Firing just 6 rounds per day is a very slow way to learn how to fire your revolver proficiently. But, if that's what's available, then I would advocate firing each shot slowly, and single action (cock the hammer) only. Try for quality for each shot...as if that shot was the most important one in the world.
* I'd recommend shooting much closer to your target - even if it means you don't get to use a rest. I'd suggest shooting from about 3 yds. to begin with, and then moving to 7 yds., and then 10 yds. Once you can make good hits on the target at 10 yds., you should be ready to move back to about 15 yds.
* If possible, try to find a local gun range or club and become a member. I'm sure they either have programs for new shooters, or you could find a member who would be willing to help you out.
Best of luck,
Dave
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susieqz
Absent Comrade
thanks, double o. it never occurred to me that i should stay with one bullet weight.
i don't know any shooters to work with. no range, club or gun store closer than 90 miles one way.
the only help i'm gonna get is from this site.
i don't know any shooters to work with. no range, club or gun store closer than 90 miles one way.
the only help i'm gonna get is from this site.
Double-O-Dave
US Veteran
Hi Susie:
It may be a bit early for this, but the enclosed diagram might help you diagnose your shooting errors once you can consistently group your piece.
Also, I used to shoot competitively, and shot boatloads of 148gr. wadcutter bullets. That was once upon a time, when wadcutters were cheap and plentiful. Nowadays, that doesn't seem to be the case. My bullet design of choice has become the standard velocity 158 gr. SWC (semiwadcutter):
HSM .38 Special Bulk Ammunition – 158-gr. SWC with Dry-Storage Box : Cabela's
It is a good all around bullet design, and is suitable for informal target and small game hunting. The design of the bullet also makes it much easier to load than the wadcutter design. If you were closer to Austin, TX I would love to help you out.
Best of luck,
Dave
It may be a bit early for this, but the enclosed diagram might help you diagnose your shooting errors once you can consistently group your piece.
Also, I used to shoot competitively, and shot boatloads of 148gr. wadcutter bullets. That was once upon a time, when wadcutters were cheap and plentiful. Nowadays, that doesn't seem to be the case. My bullet design of choice has become the standard velocity 158 gr. SWC (semiwadcutter):
HSM .38 Special Bulk Ammunition – 158-gr. SWC with Dry-Storage Box : Cabela's
It is a good all around bullet design, and is suitable for informal target and small game hunting. The design of the bullet also makes it much easier to load than the wadcutter design. If you were closer to Austin, TX I would love to help you out.
Best of luck,
Dave
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susieqz
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double o, i'll try that ammo.
groo, i bookmarked that page, but i'm hoping for a rail that sits lower. these are high to allow use of iron sights. i have zero interest in using iron sights.
for emergencies i've shot 3000 rounds to learn point shooting.
i can pretty much hit big targets close by without sights.
past 10 yards, i just gotta have a dot.
the most common emergency here is the rattler.
i bot some shot shells. they are great. i get a dense pattern 6'' across at 6'. no way i could miss.
22lr shot shells are worthless but these work fine.
if a snake is further than 6; i can retreat.
groo, i bookmarked that page, but i'm hoping for a rail that sits lower. these are high to allow use of iron sights. i have zero interest in using iron sights.
for emergencies i've shot 3000 rounds to learn point shooting.
i can pretty much hit big targets close by without sights.
past 10 yards, i just gotta have a dot.
the most common emergency here is the rattler.
i bot some shot shells. they are great. i get a dense pattern 6'' across at 6'. no way i could miss.
22lr shot shells are worthless but these work fine.
if a snake is further than 6; i can retreat.
pittpa
Member
Personally, I find it easier to get a sight picture if the sights themselves are in the dark and the target is bright. That way I see a sharp silhouette of the sight picture against the target. Inside we accomplish this by turning off the lights over the shooting line. Outside you might shoot the gun from a small box in the shade. Some people use lamp black to darken their sights.
Additionally I use a Merit optical aid, an adjustable aperture that sticks on my glasses and gives me more focus, to put it simply. Similar to the reason people squint to see better. You sound resourceful-You can get the same effect by drilling a small hole in a piece of plastic and clipping it to your glasses and sighting through it. Smaller hole = less light so there is a point where you get diminishing returns. I even use it to make my red dot more crisp. Floaters in my eyes seem to have caused my red dots to look more like grape cluster. The aperture cures that.
Jimmy1973
Member
Susie,
I am new to K-frames also.Have a pre-17,48,and an 18-3.My 18 has a Fl doc sticker on the bottom of the grips.So we both have prison pistols.
I have huge hands and have struggled some to find grips to fit me well
Try altamont or midway-usa.com for a good variety of grips.
Might also look at herrets or Craig Spegel
I am new to K-frames also.Have a pre-17,48,and an 18-3.My 18 has a Fl doc sticker on the bottom of the grips.So we both have prison pistols.
I have huge hands and have struggled some to find grips to fit me well
Try altamont or midway-usa.com for a good variety of grips.
Might also look at herrets or Craig Spegel
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