Model 19 Question

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I am looking at a Model 19-3 at my LGS. It has the 2 1/2" barrel and is in great shape. My question concerns the hammer and trigger, neither one is color case hardened, they appear to be stainless steel. I have two other 19-3s, a 6" and a 4" model. Both have color case hardened hammers and triggers. Is this typical?
 
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No, not typical. 19s should not have flash chromed hammers or triggers, though if one does and it works properly, it's hardly the end of the world. Does the gun appear to have had action work?
 
I'm going back this morning and will look. What should I be looking for? It looks to be in 95% condition on the barrel and cylinder. Comes without original box or grips, asking $475.00.
 
Sounds like either someone polished the daylights out of those parts OR someone thought that replacing with flash chromed parts from the Model 66 was a good idea. Without pictures, my bet is for a crazy polish job. Pictures would help here. If it is a shooter, and the parts are actually Model 66 parts, it seems like it would be ok. Definitely not, if you are collecting. A picture showing detail would help here.
 
The price would be fair around here IF the gun's mechanics are OK. Beware of action work. It is not usual to replace case-colored parts with flash chromed parts (usually done the other way around) but there is nothing wrong with the practice as long as the work is good. Unfortunately, not all action work is always good. Inspect carefully and if it seems likely some parts/work may be needed, I would want the price adjusted down a bit.
 
That is one odd parts swap. Pics if they let you, please. I cannot even imagine flash chromed parts in a blued steel gun.
 
I don't get the "Is it Nickeled?" Blued vs Nickel doesn't matter. Trigger and hammer on a -3 look like this:

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I don't get the "Is it Nickeled?" Blued vs Nickel doesn't matter. Trigger and hammer on a -3 look like this...
I think the idea is that if it was a post-factory nickeling, the hammer and trigger might've been nickeled with it; that's a common way to determine if a nickel-job isn't factory.
 
Thanks, but the question is now moot. When I walked in the store this morning they were finishing up the paperwork for it with another customer. Thanks for the information and the help.
 
Thanks, but the question is now moot. When I walked in the store this morning they were finishing up the paperwork for it with another customer. Thanks for the information and the help.

I am not at all surprised. At that price, I would not have had a second thought about buying that gun (obviously assuming it passed the serviceability tests). Even with cosmetic alterations on the trigger and hammer, that's probably a $600 gun in most places.
Like the kids say, "you snooze, you lose." :D
 
sporting a cool vintage pair of Rogers there, love those grips, really fit my hand well..

THANKS --- I bought the 19 and the grips at the same time --- 1978 IIRC. At one time I shot it a lot and also CCed it in a Bianchi Pistol Pocket for several years. Still a good choice.

HAPWORTH ----- THANKS for the explanation --- I should have figured that out myself.
 
It's back, I got it!

I want to finish this story. I went back to the LGS this morning to pick up some primers, and found that same Model 19-3 sitting back in the case. The other buyer took the rubber grips off before he forked over his money and found that a previous owner had engraved his D/L just under the grips and changed his mind. I had already left the store by this time.

I checked out the dull chromed trigger and hammer. They looked unpolished, we're nice and tight, and it had one of the smoothest triggers I have pulled, both single and double action. I said I'd take it and again asked if there was any box or even a rug to go with it, and again the owner said no.

As we walked to the counter, a new young man working there saw what I was buying and asked if I wanted the box for it. I said yes and he came out of the back room carrying the original blue paper box. Inside was the wrapping paper, original grips, manual and screw driver, etc all in mint condition. He told the owner that the last owner had brought them by a few days after he had dropped off the gun.

Yes, there is a D/L engraved under the grips, but are well hidden with the grips on. Here in Northern California I never find much in the clean, used gun market. I am very happy I ran out of primers the other day and ran into this gun today!
 
Dag !! What a stroke of luck. I almost left the thread thinking you had lost the 19, at $475.00.
At that money, there may be a thing or two I would be concerned about, but..a scribed number under the grips would not be one of them.
Glad you went back.
 
I want to finish this story. I went back to the LGS this morning to pick up some primers, and found that same Model 19-3 sitting back in the case. The other buyer took the rubber grips off before he forked over his money and found that a previous owner had engraved his D/L just under the grips and changed his mind. I had already left the store by this time.

I checked out the dull chromed trigger and hammer. They looked unpolished, we're nice and tight, and it had one of the smoothest triggers I have pulled, both single and double action. I said I'd take it and again asked if there was any box or even a rug to go with it, and again the owner said no.

As we walked to the counter, a new young man working there saw what I was buying and asked if I wanted the box for it. I said yes and he came out of the back room carrying the original blue paper box. Inside was the wrapping paper, original grips, manual and screw driver, etc all in mint condition. He told the owner that the last owner had brought them by a few days after he had dropped off the gun.

Yes, there is a D/L engraved under the grips, but are well hidden with the grips on. Here in Northern California I never find much in the clean, used gun market. I am very happy I ran out of primers the other day and ran into this gun today!
It's not finished till...WE SEE SOME PICTURES...
 
I will have in 10 days, here in California we have to prove our innocence first before we can be trusted with a gun.
 
I will have in 10 days, here in California we have to prove our innocence first before we can be trusted with a gun.
Yes. I'm sorry for you. I left SoCal in 1969 to spend a little vacation time in the jungles of SE Asia. Never wanted to live there again, and it has gotten a lot worse since those days.
I can remember as a kid, going home after school to get my .22. Then my buddy and I would ride our bikes, carrying our rifles in one hand, all the way across town and out of it, to spend the late afternoon shooting jackrabbits. Don't let your kids try that today! They would end up in juvie and you'd be serving time at Folsom.

Oh yeah. And we weren't wearing any goofy helmets, either.
 
Sounds like a good price to me too. I wouldn't let the swapped out hammer-trigger stop the deal.
Those guns are just going up in price and hammer-trigger sets can be found.
 
I love a happy ending, and it sure sounds like you got one! If your sensibilities are too offended by the hammer and trigger, as the Pilgrim said above, you should have no problem buying a replacement set, and they will workably be a drop-in fit (or close to it.) I'm sure you know already that you have a fine gun that will be a joy to shoot.

Regards,
Froggie
 
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