Model 25-2 accuracy?

[PT-Partners]

On the 25-2 as a novice here, is there an advantage of the 45 acp over the 45 auto rim other than availability of brass. I have a 625 of 1989 or whatever that was in 4 inch, I shoot some but came across a 4 inch 25-2 that has super glue on it when I put it in my hands. It just feels good.

 

[M29since14]

On the 25-2 as a novice here, is there an advantage of the 45 acp over the 45 auto rim other than availability of brass.

I think not, but like everything else to do with 25s/1955s, there is a legion of people who would argue about that.

I always found I did my best shooting with Auto-Rims, or, if the gun headspaces properly (note that properly word) on ACP cases, I avoided the use of full- and half-moon clips. Accuracy always seems to suffer when the clips are introduced.

I'd prefer to do all of my shooting with Auto-Rim brass, but the stuff is expensive.

 

[buckshotshorty]

I have a 25-2 and never shot anything but a 200 gr. cast wadcutter, powered by 4.0 gr. Bullseye. In a Ransom rest, the gun shot one ragged 5 shot hole @ 50 Ft. consistently. I always used Auto Rim cases for competition. At that time I was competing in bullseye and few guys from my club purchased Model 25s after they saw what mine could do.

I had the wadcutter mold made up by a company in Texas.

 

[ghitch75]

i today tried some AR loads of mine....200gr SWC 6.5gr unique...was just wackin' steel they seem to shoot better the ACP and moons with the same load....i need to put them on paper to really know for sure....anyway i like shootin' the 625 and 25-2 with AR'S...

 

[OIF2]

I think not, but like everything else to do with 25s/1955s, there is a legion of people who would argue about that.

I always found I did my best shooting with Auto-Rims, or, if the gun headspaces properly (note that properly word) on ACP cases, I avoided the use of full- and half-moon clips. Accuracy always seems to suffer when the clips are introduced.

I'd prefer to do all of my shooting with Auto-Rim brass, but the stuff is expensive.

I never heard of that; thanks for the tip. I'll try mine without the clips when I get back to work.
Bob

 

[H Richard]

Only problem with using ACP brass without moon clips is the extraction. Keep a pencil handy to poke out any stubborn cases, but they usually can be lifted out with the fingernails. The advantage of the moon clips is the rapid reloading for various types of action shooting, I have heard some say you can load the AR cases up a lot hotter, but the case strength is the same.

 

[z4lunch]

AR

I too only use auto rim brass in my 25-2. I have had good luck with a 30's era Geo. Hensley mold #68 200 grain semi wadcutter. The group in the pic was fired at 25yds rested, Measures an inch. My 25-2 is one of my favorite go to the range pistols. I have been playing with Win 452AA, because I have so much of it. It was a powder used by John Taffin in the 44spl.
Steve

 

[z4lunch]

Here is a close of the Hensley boolit

 

[H Richard]

z4lunch, where did you get the. 452AA? It was my favorite powder and I also used the H&G68 200 gr bullet. 452AA was discontinued back in the late 80's, and sorely missed. Win Super Target is supposed to be close, and I use 5.3 gr and it is accurate, but still not like the old 452AA. I hate to think that it's the 20 yrs of additional age that that make my groups open up.

 

[Doug M.]

Mr. Richard, when I was 30 I did not think aging would make a difference. I am now 22 years smarter, and I have some bad news for you. :-0

On a more serious note: Given the problems known with some cylinders for the 25s, could one just get a new cylinder, or even re-chamber a used one, and solve that? This was one of the reasons I have made plans and taken steps to implement them for a 45ACP conversion.

 

[z4lunch]

Winchester 452AA

z4lunch, where did you get the. 452AA? It was my favorite powder and I also used the H&G68 200 gr bullet. 452AA was discontinued back in the late 80's, and sorely missed. Win Super Target is supposed to be close, and I use 5.3 gr and it is accurate, but still not like the old 452AA. I hate to think that it's the 20 yrs of additional age that that make my groups open up.

I was very lucky to find a guy on the castboolit site that lived 3 hrs to the north and had some 452AA he would part with. He set me up with a 10lb keg that's almost full. I would guess its from the 80's
Steve

 

[M29since14]

For 25-yd indoor shooting I used to use the #68 bullet and 4.0 grains of 452AA. I don't recall the velocity but I do remember the extreme spread was so small for a 5-round string it was usually in the single digits - 5 or 7 FPS. It was boringly accurate in any decent 1911, and usually would function any gun that was reliable with ball just by changing to a 13- or 14-pound recoil spring. Super Target never did do the same things for me, but still, it is very good - maybe the best powder available for light .45 loads, from what I can tell.