GaryO732
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After I remove the barrel, I cannot get the slide to lift off the frame. I am moving the slide back as far as it will go with no upward movement at all when I lift it to remove. What's up with that? Thanks...
Model 41 disassembly question?
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gagunner 2
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Does it have a recoil buffer installed? If so remove it first.
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GaryO732
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Side question; how often should those buffers be replaced? Where do I get them?
gagunner 2
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Without the buffer just pull the slide back and lift up.The buffer prevents full travel of the slide so it has to be removed first.Don't know how long they last,mine is still too new to tell.
gagunner 2
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Check out guntalkon line.com.Under "service".there is just about all you need to know in the S&W model 41 section.
stevieboy
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On mine, when you pull the trigger guard down the barrel simply lifts out of the gun. The slide assembly comes off by pulling it rearward and then, lifting it slightly upward. That enables it to slide forward above the rails and off the gun.
This may sound kind of dumb (probably because it is) but I have no idea what a recoil buffer is and I don't know whether one is installed on my 41. I'm guessing not, because mine came to me straight from the factory and nothing of the sort is described or depicted in the Manual.
So, what is a recoil buffer? And, if it's function is, as I suspect, to reduce recoil, what benefit would it have in a gun as heavy as the 41? I can barely feel the discharge in my presumably non-buffer equipped 41. What benefit would I get from installing a buffer?
This may sound kind of dumb (probably because it is) but I have no idea what a recoil buffer is and I don't know whether one is installed on my 41. I'm guessing not, because mine came to me straight from the factory and nothing of the sort is described or depicted in the Manual.
So, what is a recoil buffer? And, if it's function is, as I suspect, to reduce recoil, what benefit would it have in a gun as heavy as the 41? I can barely feel the discharge in my presumably non-buffer equipped 41. What benefit would I get from installing a buffer?
The buffer is to prevent any repetitive damage to the frame from the slide whacking back and forth.
Whether it is needed or not is a matter of some debate. Some people don't see how it can hurt, others, like me, don't like to install anything that may interfere with function.
If you only shoot standard velocity ammunition, I don't think it is needed, although some very experienced people disagree. If you shoot high velocity .22's in a 41, you should sell it and get a Ruger.
The next post you see will be from someone who has fired over 100,000 rounds of hi-vel in his 41 with no problems.
Whether it is needed or not is a matter of some debate. Some people don't see how it can hurt, others, like me, don't like to install anything that may interfere with function.
If you only shoot standard velocity ammunition, I don't think it is needed, although some very experienced people disagree. If you shoot high velocity .22's in a 41, you should sell it and get a Ruger.
The next post you see will be from someone who has fired over 100,000 rounds of hi-vel in his 41 with no problems.
Slide buffers have been a subject of controversy for semi autos for a long time and the decision is split on them. I have two custom 1911's and my builder told me to never use them because if they fail and lock up the action it might just be when you don't need that to happen the most. Several other gun builders recommend them so even they are divided.
I use standard velocity ammo in my two Model 41's and I have never had a problem and like said Bullet Bob said I shoot the high velocity stuff in my custom Ruger Mark II Target.
I use standard velocity ammo in my two Model 41's and I have never had a problem and like said Bullet Bob said I shoot the high velocity stuff in my custom Ruger Mark II Target.
Sebring Pop
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I purchased a used model 41 in 1979 and began shooting bullseye with standard velocity CCI blue. Between practice and matches I shoot approx 5,000 a year. I do not have a buffer and I have never had a problem. I use a buffer in my 45's because they have a bit more horsepower than the 41 and I have seen frames with cracks that were not using a buffer.
Thanks Pop
Thanks Pop
Gary0732 - did you ever get your slide off?
Teruteru314
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Just in case somebody else (like me) stops in this thread having the same problem Gary0732 had, let me add my 2 cents ... It hapened to me also.
It's a veeery dumb statement, but anyway ... here it goes:
PLEASE, BE SURE THE TRIGGER GUARD IS STILL PULLED DOWN!!
When the guard is up, its forward end prevents the slide to reach the full rear position.
It's a veeery dumb statement, but anyway ... here it goes:
PLEASE, BE SURE THE TRIGGER GUARD IS STILL PULLED DOWN!!
When the guard is up, its forward end prevents the slide to reach the full rear position.
rck281
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I purchased my M41 in 1968. I used to shoot Bullseye at lease once a week and have over 40,000 rounds throught my M41. No problems.
