I had been wanting a model 41 for a while now but did not want to buy it on GB so I could see and hold it first. I walk I to GanderMountain and find a model 41 PC that looks like it's never been shot. I'll admit I didn't even know there was a PC model, just the standard. Anyway I knew I was gna buy as soon as I held it. Paid $950 for it. Worth it or would you prefer the standard model over the PC? The stand looks cleaner with out the rail on top. Either way still a bad gun..
Model 41 PC
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That's a great price for a PC model. Mount an Ultradot and start banging away!
I'd jump on that like a duck on a Junebug.
Fantastic deal! Enjoy.
jsolo61654
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S&W 41 PC Observations
Hi All:
I recently purchased a S&W 41 PC and thought I'd share my observations and thoughts.
First and foremost, I am not a gunsmith, nor am I a very accomplished shooter. I am what some call a "bullseye" shooter as my only goal is accuracy - that's my challenge. I'm the guy who buys all those expensive, over priced guns (while many of you wonder why anybody would pay so much for a gun... LOL)
and then spend countless hours shooting - in the hopes of putting an entire magazine of ammo through the same hole....!
Yeah right.... LOL
In any event; out of the box I was very disappointed with the 41. I could not get through a single magazine without an FTF, FTE, or stovepipe. I tried every type, and manufacturer of ammo I could (SV, HV), etc. Naturally I sent the gun back to S&W for repair. S&W was very responsive - they are excellent in that respect. I got the gun back in about 2 weeks with a note that they "polished the bore", replaced the extractor, and range tested the gun.
I shot the gun the next day.... same problem!
Could not get through a single magazine without a failure of some sort.
Talk about aggravating....!
I did finally solve the problem.....
Here are my observations and solutions.
1. It takes NO LESS than 1000 rounds to break in this gun. The tolerances are very very close and it takes time to break it in.
2. This gun MUST be "operating room clean" to operate properly.. .22 ammo is, as we all know,"dirty", and this gun simply will not tolerate it. Gotta keep it clean.
3. I found that the chamber is very tight. My gun would not pass the "plop test"... I had to lightly push the round in the camber to get it seated in the bore, and use a toothpick to get it out. My solution was to put a .22 Cal brass bore cleaner in my drill and run it in the first 1-inch of the bore for a few minutes... problem solved. I also polished the ramp which the bullet rises up on to enter the bore (forgive my lack of the technical terms).
These things seem to have resolved my problem!
I just finished shooting 300 rounds of CCI Standard Velocity LR ammo through the gun.... I did not have a single failure.
After cleaning it, I then shot another 200 rounds of ELEY .22 Match Pistol ammo through it. Not a single failure.
In fact; from a standing position, I shot 100 rounds of the CCI through a 1-inch hole from 7 yards. For me... that's pretty awesome.
Anyway; my conclusion is that this is most accurate rim fire gun I have ever owned and; was worth the absurdly high price.
I just takes a little time, patience, and TLC to get it where it should, and can, be.
Thanks for listening!
I hope this info is helpful to someone out there!
Hi All:
I recently purchased a S&W 41 PC and thought I'd share my observations and thoughts.
First and foremost, I am not a gunsmith, nor am I a very accomplished shooter. I am what some call a "bullseye" shooter as my only goal is accuracy - that's my challenge. I'm the guy who buys all those expensive, over priced guns (while many of you wonder why anybody would pay so much for a gun... LOL)
and then spend countless hours shooting - in the hopes of putting an entire magazine of ammo through the same hole....!
Yeah right.... LOL
In any event; out of the box I was very disappointed with the 41. I could not get through a single magazine without an FTF, FTE, or stovepipe. I tried every type, and manufacturer of ammo I could (SV, HV), etc. Naturally I sent the gun back to S&W for repair. S&W was very responsive - they are excellent in that respect. I got the gun back in about 2 weeks with a note that they "polished the bore", replaced the extractor, and range tested the gun.
I shot the gun the next day.... same problem!
Could not get through a single magazine without a failure of some sort.
Talk about aggravating....!
I did finally solve the problem.....
Here are my observations and solutions.
1. It takes NO LESS than 1000 rounds to break in this gun. The tolerances are very very close and it takes time to break it in.
2. This gun MUST be "operating room clean" to operate properly.. .22 ammo is, as we all know,"dirty", and this gun simply will not tolerate it. Gotta keep it clean.
3. I found that the chamber is very tight. My gun would not pass the "plop test"... I had to lightly push the round in the camber to get it seated in the bore, and use a toothpick to get it out. My solution was to put a .22 Cal brass bore cleaner in my drill and run it in the first 1-inch of the bore for a few minutes... problem solved. I also polished the ramp which the bullet rises up on to enter the bore (forgive my lack of the technical terms).
These things seem to have resolved my problem!
I just finished shooting 300 rounds of CCI Standard Velocity LR ammo through the gun.... I did not have a single failure.
After cleaning it, I then shot another 200 rounds of ELEY .22 Match Pistol ammo through it. Not a single failure.
In fact; from a standing position, I shot 100 rounds of the CCI through a 1-inch hole from 7 yards. For me... that's pretty awesome.
Anyway; my conclusion is that this is most accurate rim fire gun I have ever owned and; was worth the absurdly high price.
I just takes a little time, patience, and TLC to get it where it should, and can, be.
Thanks for listening!
I hope this info is helpful to someone out there!
jsolo61654
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Here are some pics
Thanks for the kind words.
I've attached some pics of the gun.
I forgot to mention that after every second or third shooting session; I field-strip the gun, remove the grips, and clean the gun in my Hornady Ultrasonic Cleaner... It works great!
Thanks for the kind words.
I've attached some pics of the gun.
I forgot to mention that after every second or third shooting session; I field-strip the gun, remove the grips, and clean the gun in my Hornady Ultrasonic Cleaner... It works great!
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Trigger Adjustment? and ammo
Has anyone done a trigger adjustment on their 41? Just curious. Mine feels good but lighter might be better. Also, it CCI 1240fps considered "standard velocity" ammo? feeds and ejects well but I was wondering if 1040 might be more accurate? or not?
Thanks
Has anyone done a trigger adjustment on their 41? Just curious. Mine feels good but lighter might be better. Also, it CCI 1240fps considered "standard velocity" ammo? feeds and ejects well but I was wondering if 1040 might be more accurate? or not?
Thanks
smithfan4152
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Standard velocity
CCI Standard velocity says it right on the package, you will not find CCI Ammo saying Standard velocity 1240 FPS. i believe its 1080-1078, what ever.
I prefer the CCI SV or Federal 711-B which you can pick up $50-$70.00 per 5000 rounds cheaper.
CCI Standard velocity says it right on the package, you will not find CCI Ammo saying Standard velocity 1240 FPS. i believe its 1080-1078, what ever.
I prefer the CCI SV or Federal 711-B which you can pick up $50-$70.00 per 5000 rounds cheaper.
No, that's high velocity. Drop down to below 1100 to prolong the life of your gun or add a heavier recoil spring.
Try to use just the CCI SV ammo if you can as its much healthier for your gun. The high velocity stuff knocks the heck out of the barrel and is not good for it at all. I have tuned my trigger just by turning the small screw under the trigger guard. Right down to 2.5 lbs which is really nice to my feeling of it. Very easy task to do and quick also.
