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My local LGS has a slightly used 2.5" Model 69 for $850 plus tax (there may be a little wiggle room with the price). Is this a deal or dealbreaker? What say you? Thanks for the help.
 
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I bought a 4.25 inch in 2017 and paid $736 which was at the low end of what they were selling for at the time. However, that was pre-madness.

I think the 2.5 inch ones run a little more so given the current state of affairs $850 is probably about right. Having said that, I have to admit, I wouldn't pay that much. If I really wanted it, I would offer $750 and walk away if they didn't at least come down to $775.
 
My local LGS has a slightly used 2.5" Model 69 for $850 plus tax (there may be a little wiggle room with the price). Is this a deal or dealbreaker? What say you? Thanks for the help.

Is this a revolver you want or one you intend to flip to make money? If you want it, the price is fair to all involved. Obviously better if you can get it for less. If you want to resell it, you won't make much, if anything.

Kevin
 
I thank all for their replies. I will have to talk to the owner to see how much wiggle room I have. Thanks again.
 
I would like to have one, and that is probably not a horrible price if you want one.
I think they are some kind of a kicker and would be tough to learn to shoot, and not develop a recoil flinch..
 
Depends on sales tax in your area. 6% where I live so I'd try to go OTD at bit under asking price. It's a sellers market for virtually everything so low ball offers are a waste of time.
Prices at online gun stores? Add shipping and FFL fee.
 
I would like to have one, and that is probably not a horrible price if you want one.
I think they are some kind of a kicker and would be tough to learn to shoot, and not develop a recoil flinch..
The 69 is not a kicker like the 329PD, and I find the recoil more tolerable than any M629 or Redhawk I've owned.

The bore on the L frame is lower in relation to your hand than an N frame, not much but enough to make a difference.
With an N frame I always found the top of the grip frame below the hammer really slams into the web of my hand.
It didn't bother me so much when I was younger as I fired thousands of full power loads.
But in later years I carried a Ruger Bisley just because the recoil with the Bisley grip was more comfortable than a DA .44.

The 69 barely slams back against the web of my hand at all, the gun lifts more straight up.
Anyone that wants a .44 Mag but is not looking forward to the recoil should check out the Model 69.
And no, I don't need to get Hogue Tamer X grips, the Hogue wood grips I have are fine. I did re-shape them a bit though.
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While not a small revolver, it sure is more compact than an N frame.
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Fact is, these are unprecedented times we are living in. The dollar has been diluted like never before in history. Prices simply MUST go up in order to keep up. The more we are willing to pay for these guns, the more they will be worth in the future, and with any luck our guns will outperform inflation over time.

I guess what I mean is don't be afraid to pay a little on the high end of a gun's price range if you really want it. The only way the value of these guns goes up is when people start paying more for them.

Imagine telling someone in 1986 what their Lew Horton 3" Model 29 is worth now. They would laugh at you and tell you it's only worth a fraction of the current prices! AND THEY'D BE WRONG!
 
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For that kind of money I need to sell mine! Exactly FIVE rounds have been fired from it - PMC 180 gr. .44 Magnum. After that it has become a safe queen.

I treat my 69 as a 44 Special that can handle stout loads and an occasional cylinder of magnums. One or two cylinders of full power magnums is enough for me in any range session and my gun has the 500 grips that do a better job of cushioning the recoil.

Even if you don't reload there are options, at least there were before the current ammo shortage started. Try some cowboy loads, 44 Specials or weak 44 magnum loads before you give up on your gun. My favorite load is a 240 grain FMJ from Georgia Arms listed at 1000 fps (.44 Rem Mag 240gr Full Metal Jacket NEW - Georgia Arms). Strong enough to be interesting but not so punishing I want to quit after a cylinder. Its currently out of stock and priced twice as high as it was two years ago but hopefully this ammo shortage will eventually end like previous ones did.

Also, try replacing the grips. The hard rubber ones that come with the gun don't handle recoil particularly well.
 
I treat my 69 as a 44 Special that can handle stout loads and an occasional cylinder of magnums. One or two cylinders of full power magnums is enough for me in any range session and my gun has the 500 grips that do a better job of cushioning the recoil.

Even if you don't reload there are options, at least there were before the current ammo shortage started. Try some cowboy loads, 44 Specials or weak 44 magnum loads before you give up on your gun. My favorite load is a 240 grain FMJ from Georgia Arms listed at 1000 fps (.44 Rem Mag 240gr Full Metal Jacket NEW - Georgia Arms). Strong enough to be interesting but not so punishing I want to quit after a cylinder. Its currently out of stock and priced twice as high as it was two years ago but hopefully this ammo shortage will eventually end like previous ones did.

Also, try replacing the grips. The hard rubber ones that come with the gun don't handle recoil particularly well.

I agree completely. I think the 240 @ 1000 GA load is perfect for this gun. If prices ever come back down I'm ordering a bunch. I also like the 200 @ 975 HSM cowboy action and the LAX 240 @ 1026. With these you don't need special grips. I have Altamont cokes on mine and it's my favorite gun.
 
I load my 2 3/4 inch model 69 with the 200 grain Speer short barrel Hollow point to 975 to 1,000 fps. {with either 2400 or Unique as my choice } The projectile was designed for the 44 special and this is allegedly about the max for it's integrity. Turns the extreme HP into a flying ash tray. With very acceptable recoil. I shoot it with the above pictured combat wood grips. I carry it in either the Diamond D chest holster I bought for the 3 inch 629 pictured above, or, mostly in a Milt Sparks VM 2.
 
My local LGS has a slightly used 2.5" Model 69 for $850 plus tax (there may be a little wiggle room with the price). Is this a deal or dealbreaker? What say you? Thanks for the help.

If the gun is in good mechanical order and it is one you want, then I say go for it. You won't even miss $50 or $100 a year from now. Most of the quotes for online dealers don't include credit card, shipping and transfer fees, so the difference isn't really that great.

A lot of times people buy .44 mags, shoot a couple of rounds and trade the guns back in. Don't know if this is the case here, but likely.

Lot's of thread creep going on, so I'll add some more. The 2.75" M69 is my favorite handgun platform. Have shot everything from 180gr XTPs thru 355gr BTB LFNGCs (haven't chronoed, but guess around 975 based on recoil and other chrono results in other guns).

My regular (2 or three times a week) range load is 240-265gr over 17.5gr of A2400, deep seated and crimped over front drive band in .44 Mag cases. These chrono between 1,120fps and 1,170 fps depending on the bullet. A nice .44 special equiv load is 5.0gr of WST under the the same above bullets and seated the same way.

If you really need T Rex type loads, Buffalo Bore and Underwood load some 305gr Stompers.

Buffalo Bore, 305 LBT LFN HC rated 1,325 fps
Underwood, 305 LFNGC Plated (HiTech?) rated 1,325 fps
LabRadar muzzle velocity at 33 deg F
S&W M69 2.75" ===> BB 1,195 fps ===> Under 1,147fps
S&W M69 4.25" ===> BB 1,276 fps ===> Under 1,248 fps
Ruger SRH 7.5" ===> BB 1,395 fps ===> Under 1,315 fps

Just my 2 cents.

Paul
 
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I load my 2 3/4 inch model 69 with the 200 grain Speer short barrel Hollow point to 975 to 1,000 fps. {with either 2400 or Unique as my choice } The projectile was designed for the 44 special and this is allegedly about the max for it's integrity. Turns the extreme HP into a flying ash tray. With very acceptable recoil. I shoot it with the above pictured combat wood grips. I carry it in either the Diamond D chest holster I bought for the 3 inch 629 pictured above, or, mostly in a Milt Sparks VM 2.

Am another who loads the 200 gn gd to this velocity, which mimics the older speer factory 200 gn loads. This bullet has been very accurate in every 44 tried in. Am also fan of the Rem/hdy 180 gn jhps at about 1150 fps, but have changed out the rear site, opened up the rear sight pic and added houge rubber bantam grips.
 
I qualified with it once. I had Hogue wood bantam boot grips on it, still do. I used the Zero JHP bullets on a full load of H110. I qualified without issue but when I was done there was blood on the grips and frame. If I qualify with it again I'll load it lighter. Five or 10 rounds with full house loads is enough.
 
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