More real life shooting

[ou1954]

About a month ago a pastor not far from here shot and killed an intruder. He wasn't held and wasn't charged since he was surprised by someone in his home.

I posted that in Sigma/SD but it may have been moved here.

Here is another event here in Oklahoma where a sheriff was shot and the person who did the shooting was not charged. It's an interesting story about home defense, a fake report leading to the wrong house, and a borrowed bullet-proof vest.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/17/us/oklahoma-police-chief/

 

[ou1954]

Can anyone tell me whether the link to the article works?

 

[tops]

It works. Larry

 

[Old cop]

I'm glad the vest saved the chief but I really question the LEO tactics that lead to the resident not knowing he was confronting law enforcement. The article leaves a lot of questions unanswered.

 

[Watchdog]

I think the shooter is actually lucky to be alive, himself. He's confronted by an unknown number of cops (although he doesn't know they're cops) barging into his home without a warrant...all because of some anonymous 911 call from someone using his name. I'm really surprised that he wasn't shot and killed by the cops after he shot the chief. I think the guy was set up by someone with a grudge, or else someone just out to do mischief and harm.

 

[Rastoff]

The article doesn't say if the police had a warrant or not. Except in the case of "hot pursuit" it would be illegal to enter a home without a warrant.

If the police didn't identify themselves, they should expect to be shot at.

Still, there has to be a lot more to this story.

 

[ou1954]

This was in my state and the 3rd or 4th shooting incident within the past 6 months. I think I posted just two.

This one was in a very small town and I have to say that there was no justification for the first entry attempt to have been via force.

 

[John R]

Under the same circumstances I would have shot him too.

 

[ou1954]

PROGRESS REPORT

Today our local paper said that they determined that the false 911 call did not come from a phone in the house they raided and where the local sheriff was shot.

(They did a "forensic" analysis of the phones in the raided house and determined that the 911 call wasn't made from any phone there. I would guess that "forensic analysis" means that they looked at the recent call history, usually stored on a cell phone.)

The news article included a picture of the guy they arrested for making the false 911 bomb call. I believe he lived in the same block as the house that was raided.

No info so far on what the charges will be but if there is interest I will track the case and post any significant updates.

I think the penalty for making a false 911 call is at the felony level, and since the call resulted in a shooting, the charges could be greater. On the other hand, the sheriff made a terrible mistake in breaking down the door before establishing contact with the occupant who shot him.

 

[bhayles]

The article doesn't say if the police had a warrant or not.

The article very specifically states there was no warrant. Its near the bottom and in the video.

 

[Rastoff]

Yep, I see it now. Missed it before.

Without a warrant it was completely illegal for then to enter the house. The home owner could still sure them for unlawful entry.

 

[shouldazagged]

Illegal entry and pitiful-poor police practice. I smell a lawsuit in the works.