More than 10 in California

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I just read in another thread that you can not buy magazines holding more than 10 rounds in California. So does that mean that for USPSA in California you can not have Open or Limited classes? Maybe they require that all open and limited class shooters be over 50 so their magazines are grandfathered.

I know this may not be the best place for this thread, but this is where I hang out since I am a M&P fan.

 

[Bakerloo]

The wiki has a long article: Large-capacity magazine restrictions and there is a long thread here at Calguns

but for those people who find themselves unable to click on a link:

California restricts certain things about magazines greater than 10 rounds; it has created a silly legal name for them - "large-capacity magazines" - and says we 'regular people' cannot import, sell or manufacture them. ("Dealer" FFLs may get licenses from DOJ for these activities; curio and relic licensees cannot.)

It is perfectly legal - no restrictions at all in the Penal Code - to own and possess and use those "large-capacity magazines" in any gun*, at any time, under any circumstances where it is legal to use a gun. Ownership, possession and use of "large-capacity magazines" are not crimes in PC; there is no section under which you could be charged.

Those who own "large-capacity magazines" are not required to keep records or receipts, and not required to explain how they got them.

Yes, you can go out of state and buy magazines of any capacity - but you may not bring "large-capacity magazines" back to CA as complete magazines - that would be importing and that can be charged as a felony.

Yes, you can buy part kits to repair your existing magazines - but you cannot assemble them into complete "large-capacity magazines" inside CA - that would be manufacturing and that can be charged as a felony.

You can have "large-capacity magazines"; no one may give them or sell them to you in California, and you may not give or sell them to anyone else in California. This includes sales from LEO and intrafamilial transfers - that would be included in selling and that can be charged as a felony.

There is no such thing as a "pre-ban" or "post-ban" "large-capacity magazine", and it doesn't matter. Markings on magazines have no legal meaning.
If you think your question has not been answered, follow the links at the top of this post and read the articles, then re-read items (2) and (3) above several times.


* Note: it is not a part of the "large-capacity magazine" law, but part of the 'assault weapon' law that says a semiautomatic, centerfire rifle with a fixed magazine that holds more than 10 rounds is an 'assault weapon'.

That means that
if your otherwise legal semiautomatic, centerfire rifle has a magazine lock, such as a 'bullet button',
and you use a "large-capacity magazine" in that weapon, (which, because of the magazine lock is effectively a fixed magazine rifle)
then you will have manufactured an 'assault weapon'.
That's a felony. Don't do that.

Magazines: all the answers you need - Calguns.net

 

[shotslow]

LOL..... Still LOLing

Thank you, thank you for your reply. I posted the thread as a tongue in cheek question. The answer turns out to be funnier than I could imagine.

 

[Harrison]

USPSA has a Limited 10 Class. The guns are exactly the same as for Limited, you just cannot load more than 10 rounds per mag. Production Class always has been, and continues to to be, restricted to 10 rounds nationwide. For Open, I guess you are restricted to 10 rounds in Calif (I don't live there, thank goodness). I also think there is at least one other state and possibley more than one that still has a 10 round limit on magazine capacity.

 

[missiondude]

The gun guys in Kali are an innovative bunch. Assault Weapons are still banned here, but I think more AR-15 were bought here last year than in the next 5 highest states combined. The magazine law will still be on the books next year, but I believe a legal work around is less than 2 weeks away. Looking forward to using normal mags in my M&P's soon...

 

[shotslow]

Back when I was a working stiff, I had contract programming jobs in California and Texas. I can speak from personal experience both states are just as full of gun nuts as Missouri, my location. I would agree Ca has many more. They have, however, more than more liberal media and liberals.

I regard gun nut as a compliment, as I are one.

I shoot USPSA production mostly. Even show up with a revolver sometimes.

The point is, I'm not picking on California, it just was a question that popped into my head. I'm still LOL at the answer Bakerloo gave.

 

[missiondude]

Back when I was a working stiff, I had contract programming jobs in California and Texas. I can speak from personal experience both states are just as full of gun nuts as Missouri, my location. I would agree Ca has many more. They have, however, more than more liberal media and liberals.

I regard gun nut as a compliment, as I are one.

I shoot USPSA production mostly. Even show up with a revolver sometimes.

The point is, I'm not picking on California, it just was a question that popped into my head. I'm still LOL at the answer Bakerloo gave.

Yeah, parts of Ca are mecca for the Libs from the rest of the country. In my lifetime, Ca went from Red to blue, and it just seems to be getting worse. The only good thing I can see, is there are at least some pro 2A dems, and I keep trying to convert any who will listen...

 

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Wish you well, missiondude