Why are people more cautious carrying a chambered bodyguard 2.0?

[Captains1911]

It's not safe to carry.

 

[dsk]

Getting back to your original question, I think that the reticence voiced by some folks is most likely due to the width of the little "paddle" on the trigger. It's a bit wider than the trigger itself and they may think that could somehow result in an accidental discharge.

There is a common misconception that the paddle/lever/dingus/doohickey on the trigger of striker-fired pistols is meant to prevent the trigger being pulled unless the shooter's finger is directly pressing it. While that may provide some ancillary benefit that's not its purpose. It's there to prevent the trigger from retracting under inertia from an impact such as the gun being dropped butt-first onto a hard surface. S&W likely experimented with different widths on their prototype guns and probably found that the wide flat paddle was least likely to abrade the shooter's finger.

 

[GnarlsR2]

Getting back to your original question, I think that the reticence voiced by some folks is most likely due to the width of the little "paddle" on the trigger. It's a bit wider than the trigger itself and they may think that could somehow result in an accidental discharge.

My BG has a TS but I carry it in an Alabama Holster Company pocket holster without the TS engaged and have no qualms about doing so with a round in the chamber.

That holster appears to be a popular pocket carry choice for the BG2. I prefer the Muddy River Tactical kydex because if covers the mag release.

 

[Cheyenne WYO]

I am not more cautious carrying a chambered Bodyguard 2.0 in my pocket than any other gun that I carry in my pocket. I have carried Glocks and Sigs in my pocket for many years. The single action guns like the Sig 238/938 series guns were carried with a safety on but the striker fired guns don't have thumb safeties. Be sure to practice a lot with your gear and unloaded guns before you go live with them. My draw technique involves moving the gun while it is still in my pocket to angle the muzzle forward of my knee and foot before releasing the gun from the form fitting kydex holster. That also helps in keeping the rear sight from snagging on top of the pocket when executing the draw. Trigger finger discipline is crucial.

 

[smoothshooter]

People complain about guns when they have a heavy trigger pull. Now we're complaining about one because it has a light trigger pull???

Too light of a trigger pull can be a safety issue
Too heavy of a trigger pull usually isn’t. The best advice

 

[dickydalton]

I like the safety and pocket carry. A tweek of my little knife fixed the nasty spring on that safety to make it nice.

 

[Randomgunguy]

Ill tell you right now it all comes down to safety. My coworker went out on disability when he blew a hole in his hand from his glock 19. All it took was him pulling on his appendix holster trying to use the bathroom and it yanked the trigger. That's not a light trigger but here we are and he's only got 50% strength in his hand full of pins.

 

[Randomgunguy]

There's no race to re-holster only to draw.

Seriously though, pocket carry isn't for everyone. You can carry the BG2.0 in a IWB kydex holster even AIWB too. I've done it and it's great for some scenarios. The vedder tuck and the BG2.0 disappears under a dress shirt for me.

As for re-holstering I tell people, always STOP and BREATH, then re-holster slowly. With a pocket holster you have the advantage of being able to remove the holster from your pocket, holster then place the holster/firearm into your pocket as one.

I pocket carry my 642 revolver. I'll never reholster in my pocket. To me it's not worth the risk. I'll always pull my holster and put back as one. I've heard too many ppl over the years discharge accidently. A local cop sent a round through his thigh putting his gun in his pocket holster sitting in his car. A moment of carelessness is a lifetime of pain.

 

[Mikehunt]

No safety, in a sticky holster, one in the pipe, always in my pocket, not scared. Feels good.

 

[TwinV10]

It's not safe to carry.

Maybe you just need better training and gun handling habits.

 

[SJ_VB]

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If anybody ever comes up with a higher profiled replacement safety lever I will be at the head of the line to get one.

You and many others. I'll be right behind you.

 

[Robert Henley]

I like the safety and pocket carry. A tweek of my little knife fixed the nasty spring on that safety to make it nice.

Can you elaborate on this? Were you able to make the thumb safety easier to manipulate?

 

[Cphobes]

I pocket carry my 642 revolver. I'll never reholster in my pocket. To me it's not worth the risk. I'll always pull my holster and put back as one. I've heard too many ppl over the years discharge accidently. A local cop sent a round through his thigh putting his gun in his pocket holster sitting in his car. A moment of carelessness is a lifetime of pain.

Absolutely, pocket holster comes out, holster the pistol, place back in pocket. Regular holsters you take your time putting the gun back into it. I carry AIWB and take my time reholstering. Did that even when I carried strong side.

 

[Cphobes]

I like the safety and pocket carry. A tweek of my little knife fixed the nasty spring on that safety to make it nice.

Safety was quite stiff at first, little oil and range and practice loosened mine up just fine. I like that it is a bit snappy on the operation of the safety, and I train drawing and disengaging it. I think on Youtuber mentioned just operating it after a little oil for a few dozen times seemed to take the stiffness out.

If the firearm has a safety, I engage it whether pocket carry or not.

Training, familiarity and training is key with any firearm. Pocket, duty sized whatever. If you don't train it won't perform when you need it.

 

[Cphobes]

Ill tell you right now it all comes down to safety. My coworker went out on disability when he blew a hole in his hand from his glock 19. All it took was him pulling on his appendix holster trying to use the bathroom and it yanked the trigger. That's not a light trigger but here we are and he's only got 50% strength in his hand full of pins.

Proper holster and belt are critical for any carry. Never take it out of the holster either, holster and the firearm go together as one.

Seems odd...If he shot his hand why was it in front of the muzzle when trying to use the bathroom. Seems odd if he's got one hand in front of the muzzle while the other one is pulling the holster? Sounds like he was being careless and came up with a story to not sound so careless with his firearm...

 

[Nomadmax]

Count me for "chambered round". In fact, I keep 5 chambered at all times

 

[CMcDermott]

30+ years ago when Glock started selling his guns to police in the U.S. saying it used a "Safe-T-Action" that was safer than a DA revolver. Immediately followed a pandemic of ND's with cops shooting themselves, usually in a leg while trying to holster their new pistol. Finally the "NY" 12lb trigger was demanded and the ND's stopped. Striker fired pistols without manual safeties and light (<6lb) triggers require ALWAYS following safe handling rules. One mistake typically means you shoot yourself.

 

[Beju]

Finally the "NY" 12lb trigger was demanded and the ND's stopped.

It seems unlikely that the NY trigger worked so well that it stopped negligent discharges in the vast majority of departments that just used standard weight triggers.

 

[Cphobes]

Can you elaborate on this? Were you able to make the thumb safety easier to manipulate?

Not sure what he had done with his pocketknife. But I've viewed some videos on YouTube that show bending the spring downward gently take a bit of the stiffness out of the safety. I'm sure a google search would find the videos.

Also, a bit of oil and operating it a bunch of times seems to help as well. What I did was to unload it, oil it, and flip it up/down a ton should loosen it up.

Mine is easy to operate but not easy enough to come undone by itself. Plus, your thumb gains memory and learns how to engage it, it's not the same as my EZ safeties so takes a bit to "learn" it. Sort of like a different slide stop, when you go from S&W to Glock or change your Glock to an extended slide stop.

 

[GnarlsR2]

Too light of a trigger pull can be a safety issue
Too heavy of a trigger pull usually isn’t. The best advice

While a heavier trigger may be a “safety issue”, it also is an accuracy issue.

My limited experience with the P365 Micro and XL, and now with the BG2, the trigger pull has a significant effect on my POA/POI when at the range at 4, 7, and 15 yards on paper.

Over past 5 years I’ve had the opportunity to shoot over 40 different handguns at the range. The Glock 19, for example, has a factory spec trigger of 6 lbs. 4.7 ozs.

THAT is a heavy trigger pull to me, and is quite noticeable after shooting my P365 with a trigger pull of 3 lbs. 7.52 ozs. (Calculated with a Lyman Digital and a Wheeler Digital, 7 pulls each, then averaged)

Hitting the target POI when squeezing off a shot with a heavier trigger requires much more grip and finger control, right?

Logically, the more force required to pull the trigger transfers more force to the gun, and is inducing movement.

Is the very light mass of BG2 subject to more movement during a trigger pull?

So, does a lighter trigger provide a more accurate POA/POI?