MikeNV
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Google's AI is not quite up to date....
Nowhere can I see NTS defined as No Thumb Safety.
Look at your box labels.
Or, look at the description of SKU 13927 on the S&W website.
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Why are people more cautious carrying a chambered bodyguard 2.0?
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Look at your box labels.
Or, look at the description of SKU 13927 on the S&W website.
geeollie
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This forum is a large and active place. There are many various ideas and opinions discussed everyday. We are even ready to disagree with things we support!! (just a joke)
I do not recall any posts of an actual problem caused by the Bodyguard 2.0's trigger pull and pocket carry. You will find varying ideas about pocket carry, but actual issues or accidents I do not believe have happened.
Most likely one will happen some day when a person pulls the trigger while the gun is in their pocket. But then the discussion needs to turn to training and practice instead of the pounds of pull of this firearm.
I do not recall any posts of an actual problem caused by the Bodyguard 2.0's trigger pull and pocket carry. You will find varying ideas about pocket carry, but actual issues or accidents I do not believe have happened.
Most likely one will happen some day when a person pulls the trigger while the gun is in their pocket. But then the discussion needs to turn to training and practice instead of the pounds of pull of this firearm.
We are going to give you a simplistic answer, I am afraid.
You can study up on how people commit ND's and either decide that it is or is not going to happen with you.
Then you take the corrective action or train to the compensating behavior.
The local gun range has two policies:
1. No working from the holster!
However, you can sign up for private lessons and work your way up to the trust. Mas Ayoob lets people use AIWB carry after they pass a test on it.
2. No cameras!
They do not want the TikTok of you killing yourself to go viral.
I agree with what you are doing here if I understand it. I am part of this community, and I am gonna go with what my family here recommends even if I think it is possibly unnecessary. You?
We'll see if there is a consensus...
Best To You!
BrianD
You can study up on how people commit ND's and either decide that it is or is not going to happen with you.
Then you take the corrective action or train to the compensating behavior.
The local gun range has two policies:
1. No working from the holster!
However, you can sign up for private lessons and work your way up to the trust. Mas Ayoob lets people use AIWB carry after they pass a test on it.
2. No cameras!
They do not want the TikTok of you killing yourself to go viral.
I agree with what you are doing here if I understand it. I am part of this community, and I am gonna go with what my family here recommends even if I think it is possibly unnecessary. You?
We'll see if there is a consensus...
Best To You!
BrianD
The site does show a SKU with either "NTS" or "TS".
Getting technical.... the S&W BG2 Users Manual refers to the "NTS" or "TS" as the "manual thumb safety lever". Nowhere does it use the acronym NT or NTS. If it were to use an acronym correctly it should be MTS or NMTS.
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The only difference between the "TS" and "NTS" models is the thumb safety or lack thereof. This should be blatantly obvious.
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I appreciate everyone’s thoughts. It sounds like the bg2.0 is safe as any other typical striker, but the idea of pocket carrying it with a standard trigger pull is a little more risky. I’m going to experiment by carrying it charged without a round in a pocket holster, and see if I notice any issues. I can’t see how it would go off unless I accidentally unholster it inside my pocket, which I think the odds of that happening is very low.
I’d appreciate any other feedback on the risks of pocket carrying the bd2.0 nts hot.
I’d appreciate any other feedback on the risks of pocket carrying the bd2.0 nts hot.
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It WILL NOT go off unless the trigger is pulled, period. That's why a proper pocket holster that completely covers the trigger guard is so important.
The Muddy River Tactical kydex pocket holster is designed to allow the BG2 to be "unholstered" while it is in your pocket.
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Doug M.
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Decent training in gun handling and the purchase of a good pocket holster should trump the fear of a pocket pistol with a chambered round. As noted in the response above, a defensive pistol without a chambered round is really dangerous. I have carried a mini Glock (G26, then G33) for well over twenty years in a Kramer pocket holster. I have full confidence in the platform as carried. I also sometimes carry a G42 in a Mika pocket holster. Same.
If you are not comfortable carrying a pocket pistol with a round chambered or you do not have good holster for the purpose, you will need training or to carry a revolver. This is generally a non-issue if one is properly dedicated.
If you are not comfortable carrying a pocket pistol with a round chambered or you do not have good holster for the purpose, you will need training or to carry a revolver. This is generally a non-issue if one is properly dedicated.
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geeollie
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Since we are calmly discussing gun carry and various aspects, I will mention W.E. Fairbairn. He understood that there is danger in chambered carry.
In his book "Shooting to Live with the One-Hand Gun" he advocated for carrying with the chamber empty. Many believe that because his views were so ingrained in the military and police of the day, that what is called the modern Israeli Method came from his teachings. This school of thought teaches empty chamber carry.
In his book "Shooting to Live with the One-Hand Gun" he advocated for carrying with the chamber empty. Many believe that because his views were so ingrained in the military and police of the day, that what is called the modern Israeli Method came from his teachings. This school of thought teaches empty chamber carry.
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Consider the context of that. Lack of firing pin blocks for drop safety was the norm. Retention holsters tightly molded to the trigger guard were the exception. Military users generally had flap holsters that didn't necessarily have good, firm trigger coverage, and in the military context, they tended to be for soldiers whose primary role wasn't fighting with small arms. Small, concealable handguns like Colt 1903s (also not drop safe) were routinely carried in pockets.
I wouldn't advise that a BG 2.0 be carried loose in a pocket like you can get away with using DAO revolvers. However, we have kydex pocket holsters these days. The LCP 2 is striker fired, with a shorter, lighter trigger than the original DAO model, and there doesn't seem to be a slew of people who've shot themselves with them.
and she said......"Wow..are you happy to see me or is that a Glock 19 in your pocket"
There's no race to re-holster only to draw.
Seriously though, pocket carry isn't for everyone. You can carry the BG2.0 in a IWB kydex holster even AIWB too. I've done it and it's great for some scenarios. The vedder tuck and the BG2.0 disappears under a dress shirt for me.
As for re-holstering I tell people, always STOP and BREATH, then re-holster slowly. With a pocket holster you have the advantage of being able to remove the holster from your pocket, holster then place the holster/firearm into your pocket as one.
I used to carry a Kahr P380, and it has a long but fairly light trigger with no manual safety option and no trigger "dingus" either. I would never have dared carry that thing without a proper holster. If you prefer holsterless carry then get something that is a true DAO like a J-frame. Even the DAO autos usually have a hammer that is partially cocked which lightens the felt trigger pull.
You'll never get a yes or no that will definitively answer this. As you see you get opinions. Some of these opinions are helpful, some seem to be little more than attacks on other opinions. So, what to take from all this? Read the opinions. Weigh what you see based on your experiences. Then choose a path that you not just think is safe and supported by other's points, but one that YOU feel safe and comfortable with. Nothing rocket science about that, just trust your well thought out decisions.
Getting back to your original question, I think that the reticence voiced by some folks is most likely due to the width of the little "paddle" on the trigger. It's a bit wider than the trigger itself and they may think that could somehow result in an accidental discharge.
My BG has a TS but I carry it in an Alabama Holster Company pocket holster without the TS engaged and have no qualms about doing so with a round in the chamber.
My BG has a TS but I carry it in an Alabama Holster Company pocket holster without the TS engaged and have no qualms about doing so with a round in the chamber.
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